Best 120 Hz display?

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IceDread

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Which is the best 120 Hz display?

What I'm looking for is the highest resolution with 120 Hz enabled along with a large display, 27-30", and good colors, preferably close to ips standards.

Does it exist?
 
I'm not an expert, but most people mention the Samsung 27a950d/27a750d/27a700d and the BenQ monitor
 
Unfortunately the 750d model was discontinued and there's no word on whether or not a replacement is coming and in what form.
 
IceDread said:
What I'm looking for is the highest resolution with 120 Hz enabled along with a large display, 27-30", and good colors, preferably close to ips standards.

Does it exist?
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Currently the highest resolution you can get in a 120hz is 1920x1080 and the largest screen they make is 27".

You aren't going to find 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 27" and 30" 120hz monitors they don't exsist.

That said, I have the Samsung 950D and its a great monitor. Not sure if its the best but for a 27" TN panel at 1920x1080 it looks pretty amazing to me.
 
Benq gaming models are probly one of the best with some really nice features its 1920x1080 I'm considering down sizing my monitor to one just to have the clarity and 120 hz
 
is the asus 278 a no-go? Other than reports of some weird oval burn-in I heard it's a good LED.
 
Going 120hz to me is like going from HDD to SSD. You just can't go back. IMO, eff pixel size/count. Fighting jaggies is why we invented AA. Let the hardware handle that. Can't be too hard @ 1080p.
 
I have the 27 inch Asus and I love it. Great picture and color. I don't quite understand what the oval issue is all about. I tend to use the monitor to play games or use the graphic interface for windows applications. Sure it has a bit of backlight oval issue on a blank screen. But when I turn on the monitor and computer, I tend to use it for something, not just stare at a blank screen. And if you use the monitor for any game or application, the oval is a non issue.

And BTW 120 htz refresh is noticeable

Norm
 
yup, there's no higher res than full HD at 120 hz yet, biggest are 27"and only 16:9 aspect ratio.

i use a samsung S27A750D (27"). it has a glossy screen of exceptional clarity. colors are bright and very good for a TN monitor. very good motion display with no ghosting, doesn't give me a headache and / or nausea (simulator sickness?) like my old 60 hz monitor did.

viewing angles are acceptable, at least to me since i sit straight in front of it mostly. some random mpg / avis show artifacts, possibly due to the 120 hz refresh rate. blurays however work perfectly.

one drawback, it needs an HDMI cable to display BIOS correctly. 120 hz works only via DP and with that BIOS is unreadable. (my AMD board's anyway)

i read that 3d mode on the samsung works with AMD and on the asus with nvidia cards, correct me if i'm wrong. i don't care about 3d, i bought it for 120 hz motion display in shooters and it's worth the money, motion sickness is gone.

sucks that samsung discontinued the model, what was wrong with it?
 
I would buy a used 120hz monitor, just to see if you can tell/enjoy the difference.

For me, upgrading from a 1080p 60hz TN to a 1440p IPS was a night and day difference as far as color saturation/accuracy. It was beautiful.

Sitting my newly acquired 120hz TN next to my IPS is a tad disappointing, but once the gaming begins, I wouldn't want to be on anything less than 100hz. (Assuming your GPU is capable)

NOTE: I also prefer glossy.
 
Something important to note... It takes serious hardware to push 120fps if you play a lot of the newest games and want all the eye candy. It's pointless to pick one up if your hardware can't push past 60fps. It's not as simple as picking out a 120hz monitor and having a older crap video card.

I don't ever see this mentioned....
 
I have ordered the Asus 27inch 3D. Basically the choice is down to your gpu. Get the Asus screen if you are Nvidia, get Samsung is you are ATI.

The oval fault is hopefully just the first batch on screens. I live in India and am shpping my screen in fr ok m UK so,i,will be pissed,off if i have to RMA it!!
 
EvilViking said:
Something important to note... It takes serious hardware to push 120fps if you play a lot of the newest games and want all the eye candy. It's pointless to pick one up if your hardware can't push past 60fps. It's not as simple as picking out a 120hz monitor and having a older crap video card.

I don't ever see this mentioned....
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So true. For reference, 120ish FPS in BF3 requires a 580 @ 900 MHz, Ultra textures and terrain detail, medium shadows and fxaa, low everything else, hbao off @ 1080p on a 3.5Ghz i5 760. 8+ GB ram helps too, but that's cheap. 680 at stock ensures minimum is 120, but 580 is more than enough to see benefits.

Ill 2nd the Samsung too. Only one out of BenQ XL2420TX vs Asus VG236H that comes close to Ips for color. BenQ has worst color, best contrast. Dark spots in BF3 looked great...tho more ruff round edges due to matte coating. Motion good on both, Asus less so.

One thing to note is the heavy flicker from BenQs terrible pwms. Monitor seriously wrecked my world. :(
 
As I said earlier, I have the 27 inch Asus. As others have indicated, the oval does go away after approximately 2 weeks of use. However, as I also said, the oval is a non issue anyways unless you enjoy staring at a blank screen. Matched with my GTX 580, I am quite happy with the performance for all games so far. And in my view 27 inches is a great improvement over 24 inches for most applications. It definitely is a more immersive environment in games.

Norm
 
Another asus 278 owner here.

My oval appeared after 2 days and dissapeared after 4. Total non issue. The problem i have with the screen is the lack of contrast and the blinding brightness hahahaha. But hey, it makes it easier to spot people hiding in the bushes in BF3, so i'm totally okay with it.
 
I wanted to try the Asus 27" but it's not carried by Amazon or Best Buy. I'm not sure Newegg would let me return it if I didn't like it. So for those of you with the Asus, is it a glossy screen? If not, is the AG pretty light? How are viewing angles, it's TN right? I'm using the Samsung SA950 right now and was disappointed it was only 1920x1080.

If someone is totally not interested in 3D (I'm not), is the ATI vs. NVidia argument still valid? I'm using 2 NVidia 680's and am wondering if I should be using a different monitor. Also, the Samsung design is stupid beyond belief as it stis 4" off the desk and you can't adjust it down if it's too high. If it were shorter... no problem, but since they made it too tall it's frustrating as I don't know how I can drop the screen into my desk. If it didn't have all the hardware in the base I'd chop off the base and make my own shorter stand.
 
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EvilViking said:
Something important to note... It takes serious hardware to push 120fps if you play a lot of the newest games and want all the eye candy. It's pointless to pick one up if your hardware can't push past 60fps. It's not as simple as picking out a 120hz monitor and having a older crap video card.

I don't ever see this mentioned....
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Probably because people hear the resolution 1080p and instantly their brain turns off because they have had a 30 inch or multi display setup for a couple years and instantly assume modern video cards can do 3000 fps max settings in bf3 at that res without breaking a sweat... Not even close.
 
The 27 inch Asus 120 htz is a matte screen. It is also totally adjustable in height and direction. It is a TN display. Viewing angles are important and you have to sit directly in front to get the best picture. It would not be a monitor I would use for extensive photography work, it is really designed for gaming with a fast video card. it comes with the nvidia 3D glasses. 3D varies a lot of course, but I have seen some good 3D so far with my GTX 580. So really in my opinion, if you game a lot or browse the internet, it's a great monitor, otherwise a high end IPS may be better for you.

Norm
 
Normsc said:
The 27 inch Asus 120 htz is a matte screen. It is also totally adjustable in height and direction. It is a TN display. Viewing angles are important and you have to sit directly in front to get the best picture. It would not be a monitor I would use for extensive photography work, it is really designed for gaming with a fast video card. it comes with the nvidia 3D glasses. 3D varies a lot of course, but I have seen some good 3D so far with my GTX 580. So really in my opinion, if you game a lot or browse the internet, it's a great monitor, otherwise a high end IPS may be better for you.

Norm
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Thanks for responding even though my post was full of typos. Late night :)

About the viewing angles, some TN displays have a bit more leeway when not viewing straight on - was your comment specific to this display or TN in general? Asus's website makes it kind of sound like it has wider viewing angle than "normal" TN screens.
 
You know if you compare a 23" and 27" at the same resolution, isn't the only difference that you'll have to push the 27" back a few inches otherwise it'll fill "Too Much" of your peripheral vision?

I was seriously just thinking about this and i must say i think they are kind of a rip-off, although thats my opinion based / never used a 27" side-thought.

EDIT: I do use a 42" plasma as a monitor though, and in the end it feels the same as my 24" LCD, just more plasmaeeish. Although i did adjust the distance so that it was the same peripherally as my 24".
 
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Don't get anything larger than 24" for 120Hz

Due to the limitations of the bandwith of DL-DVI-D the highest 16:9 resolution you can achieve at 120Hz is 1920x1080

Because the resolution can't get any higher I personally wouldn't get a 27", the pixels would be too large and everything feels a bit zoomed then.

I'd go with either the samsung a23d750 or the asus VG236HE
I have the asus myself and i totally love it, the colors/picture are VERY good in terms of TN, still a bit of gamma shifting, but hey, that's the drawback and any TN panel will have that.

By the way 120hz vs 60hz is a difference between NIGHT AND DAY, especially in fps games it is really terrific. The mouse response feels waaay better. I personally hate gaming on my $1400 gaming laptop now, because of the 60Hz screen it has, haha
 
I think it's all a matter of preference. It is true that a 27 inch display is a bit large to look at the whole image at once. I don't mind this though and find that it doesn't detract for the experience; to the contrary I find the larger screen adds to the immersion. I sit about 2 feet to 3 feet away depending on how comfortable I want to sit.
The pixels on the 1920 by 1080 will be larger than that same resolution on a 24 inch. Once again I don't find the pixel size to be an issue. There are 5 or 6 preset viewing modes from gaming to photographs and of course you can manually set the color and brightness etc. I used a Dell 2405 24 inch before upgrading to the Asus and although I like the Dell, I would never go back to it now. And really the 27 inch is not that much larger than the 24 inch being the measurement is diagonal. I can't comment on viewing angles as I havent really seen the BenQ or Samsung. Maybe you should check them out at a store if you can to see what is best.

Norm
 
One simply can not get the best of two worlds it would seam :/
I need to go look at screens but I'd want a higher resolution than 1080p and still good colors while having 120 Hz.. I guess 3 screens might be one answer.
 
Isn't there some kind of weird limitation though? Like 100hz Nvidia / 85hz Amd?

EDIT: I mean specific to that 2560 x whatever.
 
dowant120hz said:
no
dl-dvi is even good for 2560x1440@120hz
confirmed in one of the catleap threads
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To be technically correct, DL-DVI is limited by spec to 85 hz @ 1440p & 24bit colour. Any higher is overclocking your video card's TDMS transmitter. Running at 1440p @ 120hz is a 50% overclock on your TDMS transmitter.

The 85 hz limit is at 340mhz pixel clock, the limit of the DL-DVI spec. The 100 hz/97 hz limit is at 400mhz pixel clock, limited by the Nvidia drivers (supposedly). 120 hz is at ~495 or so mhz pixel clock, which is a good deal above what the TMDS is rated for.
 
I didn't even know one could "overclock the DVI-D"

a 340 to 495 is such a big increase you'd think it wouldn't work flawlessly. At least with CPU's you'd need quite some cooler to do such an increase safely.
 
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