Become The Cryptocurrency in Dungeon Defenders II

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  1. rgMekanic

    rgMekanic [H]ard|News Staff Member

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    I have stopped facepalming long enough to tell you that Newswire.ca is reporting that the upcoming game, Dungeon Defenders II, will feature a new form of monetization called Loot. Now that the shock from how clever that name is has passed, I can tell you that Loot, is a blockchain protocol, and crypto-asset, but instead of being generated by hardware and mining, Loot compares player performance within games to generate a new crypto-asset using a "proof of skill mechanism." Dungeon Defenders II is a third-person action-strategy game with some RPG elements. Thanks to cageymaru for the story.


    Loot is the blockchain protocol and crypto-asset for the gaming industry. It employs a unique patent-pending proof of skill mechanism, which harnesses the effort and skill that gamers expend to create new tokens through gameplay. Loot effectively opens up a new entry point to the crypto economy for the entire gaming industry, allowing game publishers and developers to share wealth with players without sacrificing any existing revenue generation.
     
  2. atp1916

    atp1916 [H]ard|DCoTM x1

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    The irony would be amazing.

    "DAMN MINERS!!!"

    ..... as i generate coins gaming.


    EA should be looking into this.
     
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  3. hlfbkd420

    hlfbkd420 Limp Gawd

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    Or you could, you know.... Do both
     
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  4. atp1916

    atp1916 [H]ard|DCoTM x1

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  5. DedEmbryonicCe11

    DedEmbryonicCe11 [H]ard|Gawd

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    The most surprising aspect of this article is that Dungeon Defenders II hasn't officially released yet. I played the beta two years ago I thought.
     
  6. xmadror

    xmadror Limp Gawd

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    This could have some potential but the game didn't looked interesting when I looked into it when they started the beta ~2 years ago, maybe it got better with time but I doubt it.
     
  7. Grimlaking

    Grimlaking 2[H]4U

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    How does it generate monetary value? I call this dead before it begins.
     
  8. DedEmbryonicCe11

    DedEmbryonicCe11 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Well the first one was addictive fun at first but trusted players far too much with client-side calculations of loot that led most people to cheat - which caused devs to increase the power scaling to keep up - which caused players to cheat more...

    Pretty sure this time around the loot is server-side since I think you have to connect to a server even if you want to play a scenario solo.
     
  9. risc

    risc Limp Gawd

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    I have no clue what this is, it makes zero cents.
     
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  10. AK0tA

    AK0tA Gawd

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    So how does this work. I log onto a game server owned by some big company and I am mining for them in turn they give me fancy weapons and skins? By jove let me fire up the reactor and get to gaming.
     
  11. blandead

    blandead Limp Gawd

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    Well since it works using blockchain I'm assuming time spent in the game + certain actions will earn you more or higher quality items / in-game money

    There's various payout/contribution methods possible for a blockchain (in this case your in-game reward when not actively participating)

    Could be an easy way for devs to setup in-game currency / trading which hopefully means more time spent making overall game quality better
     
  12. jardows

    jardows [H]ard|Gawd

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    This gives new meaning to the idea of a professional gamer!
     
  13. jpm100

    jpm100 [H]ardness Supreme

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    EA'a interpretation would be to put 97% CPU sucking crypto-miners in its games and keep all the proceeds.
     
  14. atp1916

    atp1916 [H]ard|DCoTM x1

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    -PK- [H]ard|Gawd

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    It sounds like it's literally a leaderboard system with loot rewards, over complicated with crypto terminology to make money.
     
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    RanceJustice [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'll have to look into its actual implementation. It could be basically a frustrating way to extract more money from players, or it could be a novel use of blockchain mechanics to solve in-game economic problems. The game generating a crypto-asset is not a problem - what could be a problem is if that asset is usable outside the game or able to be traded for real world money.
     
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    andrewaggb Limp Gawd

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    they say it's compatible with any game. so people will make junk games that are designed to reward loot faster. And have bots play for them. And probably make bots and aim assists etc for every other game because now there is potentially a financial reward (assuming it can be traded for actual money at some point). Honestly the whole idea sounds terrible to me. Their website is light on details so it's not clear how they are planning to stop this. Given the struggles many games have had with cheaters I doubt they can.
     
  18. oROEchimaru

    oROEchimaru [H]ardness Supreme

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    not everything is "mining" .... what they may be doing is "playing a game" and using it as a coin. if it is "mining" and tricking people to "do skills = mining" then this is lame. if it replaces a virtual currency like several cryptos plan on doing it may serve a purpose.
     
  19. PaulP

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    So this is the opposite of "pay to play"? Play to get paid, maybe?
     
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    Hope they have good cheat detection.

    Also if you do get caught cheating, do you forfeit your currency to the game developer? In which the game mods are incentivized to find cheaters?

    Yes...this sounds like a system that won't be abused at all.
     
  21. Darunion

    Darunion Chin Poon Specialist

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    This is making me feel old. I am getting to the point of "What the fuck is this? What happen to putting in a cartridge and turning it on and playing a game?".

    Ugh, where is my shotgun and rocking chair, need to find a nice spot on the porch.
     
  22. horskh

    horskh n00bie

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    Loot. Box. Coin.
     
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  23. hlfbkd420

    hlfbkd420 Limp Gawd

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    In the lbc huh? :)
     
  24. UrielDagda

    UrielDagda 2[H]4U

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    Just seems like the idea of relaxing and playing a game is dying and it's just becoming another form of veiled after work work. "games" that will be designed to skirt the line and give the absolute minimum fun for the most work just to keep generating money.