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Bad SilverStone issue.

Computurd

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Just a heads up guys, wanted to inform you of a problem i have had with a company.
The bad thing is, it is a company that I have used for years, SilverStone. I have used their high-end power supplies, several models, and have only had one previous problem, with a Zues 1200W unit. The RMA process was very quick for that unit, and they were friendly and helpful. I have also recommended SilverStone power supplies to many people over the years.
But here we go…
I purchased a SilverStone ST1500W power unit. When i powered it on for the first time I smelled a burning, and heard an arcing type sound, then the psu shut down automatically. This is a 1500Watt unit so it doesn’t have a power switch. I reached quickly to unplug it, but before I could the power cycled back on and I began to see smoke as I unplugged the unit.
Fearing the worst I started to check my gear. Luckily most of my hardware was fine.
However, I was in benchmode so I had ten vertex SSD connected to the power supply and my raidcard. Three of them were fried, and I mean literally fried. The room stunk and was half full of smoke, and the SSD’s were hot, and dead as hell. The smell was in my room for a week, no matter how many candles my wife lit, it was that bad.
Now, I am thankful that seven of the SSD made it out alive, and the house didn’t burn down. But I did lose three SSD’s. All three were on the same sata cable (that cable has three sata power connectors) and that sata cable, upon closer inspection, was visibly scorched, and smelled of burntness as well. The scorching was on the cable on the last SATA port of the particular line. All three devices on that power line were destroyed.
I called SilverStone the next day, and they said that sure, they would check out the unit. However, they said that they weren’t sure about covering the drives. I explained that it should be covered by them, as I could go buy a surge protector, and some have up to 150,000 of protection for the equipment plugged into them. He told me that he would look into it and call me back. When he returned my call he explained that if in fact the PSU or cable caused the issue, they would replace my drives. I offered to send him my drives, but he told me no, that wouldn’t be necessary. He also said that he would send me a return label for the unit as it was brand new. I had to call back several times, and eventually after a week they managed to get me a label.
So I sent the unit back. The contact at SilverStone USA RMA office told me that it appeared quite obvious it was a wiring issue as IT WAS SCORCHED VISIBLY, but that they would have to ship the unit to Taiwan for additional testing . He explained this could take some time.
Now, here is the deal. It has been a month and a half, and finally, after calling 5 times, they have replied in an email that they are not going to cover the drives, and that the unit is functioning just fine. And the cord is okay too! How in the world is that possible, the thing is scorched!
I am very frustrated, and I feel that they have given me the runaround and basically put me off until I dropped it. However, I never dropped the issue, and now they are basically satying im screwed.
Not sure what im gonna do here…definitely gonna do a post over on the egg about the issue on the product page, and possibly contact the Better Buisness Bureau in California. I mean am I asking too much, that they cover the damage their psu did to my gear? I mean imagine if the company that made the defective blowout preventer for the oil spill just said “well we will replace the blowout preventer, but that’s it. The rest of the damage is on you “ yea right that would never fly. I am so pissed off its unreal.
What do you think I should do, grin and bear it? I mean heres the deal, they are 30gb vertex gen1 drives, they aren’t worth shit. It’s the principle and how they handled it that is pissing me off.
 
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I have the same power supply for my i7 rig. No problems so far *knock on wood* been running fine since about march of this year. I did read about some issues before about the 24pin melting when plugged into the EVGA Classified mobo's too. Good luck with your situation even though your post is kind of hard to read. Not taking sides here as I believe its most likely the PSU's fault, but have you checked your circuit.. because 1500w is really just shy of the outlet's limit,(maybe a sudden surge or something happened?) i'm not very knowledgeable, just throwing it out there.

But just keep persisting, keep talking to different reps and managers. They should replace everything if the PSU is at fault, clearly.
 
I think the Silverstone had a faulty SATA power socket with some bent pins that shorted to the wrong power rails. You should have photographed the connector before returning the PSU, but maybe the scratch marks on the SATA plugs of the burnt SSDs can tell you if any pins were off-center or crooked (crooked -> wider scratch mark). Silverstone may be trying to blame you for plugging in the socket at a sharp angle, but I don't think that can cause a short, judging by this:

sataconnector.jpg


The only way to safely tell for sure is by doing the same and using an ohm meter and an adapter like this:

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It's Meritline #192-592-001, $2.59, delivered.

If you didn't buy the SSDs too long ago, it's possible the credit card company's purchase protection against damage will cover them, but it's typically good for only the first 90 days, at least in the case of Mastercard and Visa (I don't know about Amex).

If Silverstone says their warranty explicitly excludes damage to other products, that may not always apply because companies frequently put illegal clauses in their warranties, and there have been cases where motherboard makers replaced CPUs or hard drives, and two years ago, Dealsonic replaced one person's hard drive when one of their $20 drive enclosures probably made it burn out.

I'd complain like heck at BBB.org, to the California attorney general's office, and at every public forum.

BTW, when I get a new PSU, I first test it with just a bent paperclip and a meter, then I repeat with a couple of 100-200W resistors. I don't have the courage/money to connect expensive hardware from the beginning.
 
That’s very sad news because just like BETA. I also have one of those same PSUs and have not had a problem with it, so far. I have read that something like this may happen because the voltage is at that limit for what a standard outlet can take; luckily for me the previous owner of my house spent enormous amounts of money on improving the electrical capacity of the lines throughout the house because he had a side business of growing copious amounts of cannabis. As far as what to do I'd go with what larry is saying and try to pursue it as best as you can via BBB and constantly contacting Silverstone for further assistance as previously promised
 
man that story sucks! hope it gets resolved with Silverstone, from my experience they have good products!
 
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