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AYE! New computer help!

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DeathMan

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hey, i have no idea what to do for my new computer...

i wasn't going to go the watercooling route yet (not until i have the computer built) and i already have a 6800 GT and was thinking of getting the arctic silencer for that, i want to use the 6800 in my new setup... wanna make this computer a top/high end gaming computer... i also wanna go amd (for gaming reasons)

i also like the tsunami thermaltake case... okay (makes it sound like i know what i'm doing eh?)

so... any suggestions on what to get?

:D thanx... any help is appreciated
 
okay, everyone, don't mind my "noob" friend :p...jkjk....i suggested to him this:

64 3500+
ASUS A8V Deluxe
1GB Dual Channel PC3200
1 74GB raptor
1 250GB sata storage drive
keep the 6800GT

so, thoughts?
 
If you do get a 3500, make sure it is a 90nm chip. I would get a 3000+ athlon 64 (all of which are 90nm) and overclock it. Raptor isn't worth it for gaming, merely decreases level load times by a couple seconds.
 
Fistandantilus said:
If you do get a 3500, make sure it is a 90nm chip. I would get a 3000+ athlon 64 (all of which are 90nm) and overclock it. Raptor isn't worth it for gaming, merely decreases level load times by a couple seconds.
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that's why i want the raptor! with all the mods that i have for Unreal, it takes a good 4 minutes to load Unreal (i'm pretty sure that mods would affect load time...)

but i would probabally go with the 3500 cause i'm not gunna oc right off the bat, and i want speed... lots of speed, i was even considering the FX-55
 
ok...well, what are you doing with ur "eBay PC"? first of all, let me direct you here: http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Storage-Devices/RAID-Not-Such-a-Clever-Idea-for-Your-Home-PC/1/ for why you shouldn't get RAID 0...as for the mod load times...mods are conversions of the game. First of all, you mean mutators, i think, which, should only load when you need to. I know you, and you don't use like 10-15 mutators at a time. The most I've seen you use is like 5. I wouldn't worry about it, a 7200rpm SATA drive should be enough.

As for the processor, the 3500+ will suit your needs perfectly, as it beats out the 3.2EE in most tests I've seen, for like $800 less.

Good luck!

Alex

ps. - of course, you could always just call my cell and talk any time ;)
 
well... with the Ebay POS i had/have, booting up Unreal took seconds, not minutes, and i had all the other stuff on it... and what i mean by booting it up is, when u click the UT2004 shortcut, and the splash icon comes up, that takes minutes, but not on my new BSOD computer.

if for some reason the dude doesn't take it back, then i'll go with the 3500 and MAYbe raptors

oh yeah, and windows loads in only 2 bar thingies with raid... just a thought :D
 
so...it loads in 2.5 bars instead? did u see the link? how would u like it if one drive failed and EVERYTHING was gone? not a risk i'd take on a $xxxx computer.

w/e, its ur choice...but i hope it all works out for you! i'm rooting for you!

and, btw, i kicked ur arse in Halo 2 melee, and you know it ;)
 
Raid 0 helps a little with load times, that's all. One thing to keep in mind is the amount of RAM your current system has and how much of a load it's under. If you don't have much RAM and are running several programs when you load a game, (antivirus, firewall, messangers, weatherbug, etc) of course it's goign to take a while reguardless if you have RAID or not because Windows has to keep swapping parts out of memory and onto the swap file.
The second inherant fact of RAID is that it fragments constantly. Over time, an array will fragment so much that it will degrade in performance unless you regularly defrag the drive. Third fact, which has already been pointed out, if one drive fails you lose everything. Not even a data recovery agency can save all of it. I have a RAID 0 array of Raptors but use it only for capturing video and for the Windows Swap file. Windows and all my apps are on a single drive (Imaged of course with Ghost for backup. :D)
As for the Windows boot time, yeah it can load fast if you don't have an overly complex setup. The simpler the setup, the faster your load time will be. Delays on the startup screen are caused by low memory, multiple devices to load drivers for and wait for them to initialize, and a slow drive. A single 7200RPM SATA drive will peform just fine. The added speed you get from a RAID array will be quickly negated when you start adding RAID drivers to the startup, tweak utilities, video drivers, sound drivers, network drivers, a firewall (Good ones run as services, not as an application) and any other devices you may have connected (USB, firewire).
 
The_Mage18 said:
Raid 0 helps a little with load times, that's all. One thing to keep in mind is the amount of RAM your current system has and how much of a load it's under. If you don't have much RAM and are running several programs when you load a game, (antivirus, firewall, messangers, weatherbug, etc) of course it's goign to take a while reguardless if you have RAID or not because Windows has to keep swapping parts out of memory and onto the swap file.
The second inherant fact of RAID is that it fragments constantly. Over time, an array will fragment so much that it will degrade in performance unless you regularly defrag the drive. Third fact, which has already been pointed out, if one drive fails you lose everything. Not even a data recovery agency can save all of it. I have a RAID 0 array of Raptors but use it only for capturing video and for the Windows Swap file. Windows and all my apps are on a single drive (Imaged of course with Ghost for backup. :D)
As for the Windows boot time, yeah it can load fast if you don't have an overly complex setup. The simpler the setup, the faster your load time will be. Delays on the startup screen are caused by low memory, multiple devices to load drivers for and wait for them to initialize, and a slow drive. A single 7200RPM SATA drive will peform just fine. The added speed you get from a RAID array will be quickly negated when you start adding RAID drivers to the startup, tweak utilities, video drivers, sound drivers, network drivers, a firewall (Good ones run as services, not as an application) and any other devices you may have connected (USB, firewire).
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you know, its people like you that give us great information. its people like me that sum it up so people can read it :p...jkjk
 
riiight... ah well

my new computer has raid 0 so... can't much help that

not really worried about drive failures... crap... i probably just jinxed myself...

i'll see what happens
 
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