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Ok so heres the thing,

Budget: Unlimited (However keeping it under AUS$2000 is wanted...)
I am using my mates 'business' account to an online site so I buy everything pretty cheap, price list for me can be downloaded at http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/78bb4128f0_1.2MB

Uses: I do image editing, with photoshop, photography, GAMES, I am not a huge 'OMGZ need 1920 res' kind of gamer, but I would like to get in to these newer games with good settings.

Case: NFI I really have no idea.
PSU: Same as above
Motherboard: Ip35 Pro
CPU: Was going to go with q6600 but with the new ones so close around the corner should I just wait and put a cheap highly overclocked dual core in it?
RAM: Was going to go with 4gig (2x 2 gig sticks) but maybe I dont need this, 2 gig still enough atm?
Hard Drives: I will just put 2 350 gigs in it or something?
Optical: I want 2 dvd burners in there.
Sound card: An xfi, but is this really needed?
Video card: This is the other big problem, I was going to go with a 8800gt, but with the 9 series not too far off Should I maybe get say a 6600gt, (much cheaper) and then upgrade when a new one comes out...
Monitor: I have a 17inch lcd (cry) I can use this for a while its usable, but I really would like maybe a 22" to start getting mroe screen real estate.

Thanks heaps in advance for any help, I guess I do know my stuff, when helping others, but I am trying to get a best bang for buck system and when its your ownn build/money it seems to make the choices so much harder.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I don't have money to throw away so the cheaper the better.
 
First things first, I'm betting there'll be at least one idiot today who's gonna say "OMG! GET THOSE PARTS FROM NEWEGG! YOU OVERPAID!!!!"

Anyway, to answer your concerns and questions:

Case: Whatever fits within your budget and that you like. Cases are a personal choice item, so what looks good to me may look shitty to you. Just go to that online store that you go for and just pick out a case that you like. With that said, the only case that I'd buy from the list you provided is the P182.

PSU: From the list you provided, I say go with the Corsair 620HX 620W PSU. It's modular meaning that you can whatever cables you don't need and it's an excellent quality PSU. It's worth every dollar. Though if you need to save some money, the Corsair 520HX 520W PSU is also a good choice.

CPU: From what I can tell, the new Yorkfields will only offer, at most, a 10% performance increase in games, a bit higher with video editing apps. For your needs, I say the Q6600 is more than enough for you. Though if you're an overclocker, definitely wait for the Penryn CPUs. Looks likes the Penryn CPUs will be mean ass overclockers

RAM: Go for 4GB of the cheapest DDR2 800 RAM available to you. RAM is pretty cheap these days and it would help with Photoshop according to a few Graphic designers I know. Though you'll need a 64bit OS like Vista 64bit in order to use all 4GB of RAM. Though if you find yourself over budget, drop the RAM down to the 2GB of DDR2 800 RAM.

Hard Drives: There's no 350GB drive in existence. There's 320Gb and 400GB drives. Anyway, determine how much storage you need yourself and how much storage you can cram into your budget. Though I'd go with the Samsung HD403LJ 400GB SATA Drive or #69 in HDD sheet since it looks like the best deal

Optical: Make sure you get SATA DVD burners in order to help keep a clean case

Sound Card: Unless you're an audiophile, you really don't need a sound card. Onboard sound has gotten pretty good these days.

Video Card: Your choice. Though remember that Nvidia will most likely release the highest end 9000 series first. It'll be awhile before they release the mid-range or lower high-end models. So basically if you absolutely have to have the highest end card and are willing to pay the high price, then go for it.

Or you can wait till the new revised 8800GTS comes out. Looks like the revised GTS will definitely outperform the 8800GT and quite possible, the 8800GTX.

Monitor: whatever the biggest size monitor you can get that fits your budget, go for it.

Thats it from me. I need to get some sleep. The last of that energy drink I drank is starting to wear off on me. Hope the above helps
 
thanks heaps for the quick reply, I want to order on monday, here is my build list...

Case:
Antec P182 $200
PSU:
Corsair 620HX 620W $167
Motherboard:
Abit IP35Pro $191
CPU:
Intel E6750 $239
Ram:
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB (2x XMS2 2GB) Twin2X PC-6400 (800MHz) DDR2 RAM, 2x240-pin DIMMs, Non ECC, Unbuffered, 5-5-5-15 $246
HDD1:
Samsung 400gb $103
HDD2:
Samsung 400gb $103
DVDB1:
Sony Black SATA $45
DVDB2:
Sony Black SATA $45
Video Card:
xpertvision 8800GT $418
Monitor:Viewsonic 22” value monitor $333

=2090

Its doable on my budget, but I really would like to cut it down, for example the processor is only to get me by with overclocking until the new quads can a lower e series do this?, Where else can I shave some money.

with Ram is it important to get 2x2gig sticks or is 4x1 gig sticks just as good, can 4 1 gig sticks both run in dual channel?

Is there anything wrong with that lcd, theres a more expensive 22 inch one, this is a value version, whatever that means... thanks in advance for all this help.
 
OMG! GET THOSE PARTS FROM NEWEGG! YOU OVERPAID!!!!

I'm too lazy to download that huge xl file, so... yah. I agree with Danny's suggestions. To answer your questions...

Heh, I was like, "You consider the E6750 a 'cheap' dual core?!?" lol... drop down to an E2160, E4400, or E4500 instead. They can all reach around 3.4Ghz (3Ghz on the stock cooler). Personally, I'd go with the E2160.

If you don't need all the extra features of the IP35 Pro (external CMOS Reset switch, extra PCI-E 4.16x slot, dual GbLAN, µGuru OC'ing SW, ETC), you could drop down to the IP35 Vanilla, or the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R (if you don't need Firewire). If you don't need RAID nor Firewire, the IP35-E or DS3L are much cheaper alternatives. All boards mentioned can OC very well.

2x2GB is preferred because you'll most likely run into less problems with 2 sticks of RAM -- especially if they're 1.8v. If you go with 4x1GB, make sure they're standard voltage sticks. High voltage sticks, 2.0v or higher, may cause some problems.

What model Viewsonic is that?
 
enginurd said:
OMG! GET THOSE PARTS FROM NEWEGG! YOU OVERPAID!!!!
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I knew it.......:p

Anyway I concur with enginurd. If you're planning on overclocking, go for 2x2GB sticks. I think this quote/analogy best sums up my reason why you shouldn't go for 4x1GB:
Entroper from Tech Report.com said:
Think of it this way: Roll two dice. The number on each die represents the maximum speed that a stick of RAM will run at, so you can overclock to the lowest die number. Now roll four dice. You're more likely to have a low die holding you back with four dice than you are with two.
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Thanks heaps for your reply's again,

the monitor sais this in description...
Viewsonic 22" VA2226W Value Series Wide-Screen LCD Monitor, Slim bezel design, Black colour, Native Resolution 1680 x 1050, 5ms Response Time, Brightness: 300 cd/m2, 2000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio, 170/160 Viewing Angle, Input Signal: Separate Sync/Composite Sync/SOG, Digital(DVI-D) / Analog(15 pin D-sub), OptiSync Technology, OSD / Power Lock Function, Windows Vista Premium approved, HDCP

vs

Viewsonic 22" NX2240WB Wide-Screen HDTV/LCD Combo - Max. Resolution 1680x1050, 5ms Response Time, Brightness: 300nits, 1000:1 Contrast Ratio, 170/160 Viewing Angle, PAL Tuner, D-Sub input (PC) x1, Composite input x1, Component input, HDMI (V1.2) x 1, Headphone x1, 2 x 3W speakers, Teletext.

The second is $150 more i dont know screenss so I dont really know why...

ALSO
cpu prices are these...
E2160 $100
E4500 $153
E4600 $174
E6550 $211

Differences in these are l2cache and FSB, will this make any differences in performance?

And with the motherboard, I want something that will be good for future use as well. I will need e.sata no matter what because of my externals. From what I can see the ip35pro is the only model with that, 2x infact.
keeping in mind i will drop a new uad in there when they are out.

My other concern still si with the 8800gt or 8600gt, I cant decide, I am guessing the 8600 just wont cut it on a 22" monitor. Thoughts?

also is that case really going to benifit for $200, I understand the power supply, more power, I am happy to pay $200 for it, just wondering why however.
 
Just bought the HX620W for it. Looks insane. and modular :D... any advice with the rest of the stuff?
 
Well like I said, cases are a personal choice item. I simply chose it because it looked great. But it is a very silent case, has fantastic airflow and again, it looks great. Though you're welcome to choose your own case.

As for mobos, the GA-P35-DS3R that Enginurd recommended comes with an adapter that turns two of the internal SATA ports into eSATA ports. And do know that any P35 based mobo will be compatible with the new Penryn CPUs.


The 8600GT will not cut it, even in SLI, will not cut it for a 22". So I do recommend the 8800GT.

As for CPUs, I forget how much of a performance one gets from 1MB to 2MB to 4MB L2 Cache.
 
Ah ok, well 8800gt it is :), and as for case I will just pick that one as it is very sexy, thats unless one of my mates gives me one for cheap, now the only real question is cpu... anyone else got some ideas? Thanks again for all the help, made this very stressful process pretty breezy.
 
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