Yeah I am in the same boat, I too have a 780i and no intention of replacing for at least another year, so if I go with an ATI card it will have to be the R700. The GTX 280 is already a good deal faster than my 2 8800GTX's and if the R700 is alot faster than the 280 then I will finally have something to upgrade to. I will never get another 2 card setup again, too much hassle.
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ATI's predicted 4800 pricing model
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I don't think the gtx280 is much faster than your 2 8800gtx's, in fact I would say that your set up is probably faster than the gtx280 in most cases.
Anandtech has the 8800gt sli setup ahead of the gtx280 in most cases, except when they used a resolution of 2560x1600 and even then it lost a couple.
I really don't see you needing to upgrade for a while.you already have it. as much as I hate to say it multiple cards and gpus are probably the future.
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Well yea, I been having so many issues like bsod and nvidia display driver stop responding in vista x64 when playing most games. But in XP 32 smooth as silk in all most games.
Sucks that MS or nvidia can't work out their drivers, Looks like a single card for me. I can't really use both cards so one gtx 280 will pwnd a 8800gtx.
I have to buy one at the end of the month whether they drop the price down or not.
I can't wait to see if the R700 will live up to all of our expectations, I really hope it does. I don't have a problem with multi-gpu setups, but I don't really like the multi-card setups, as it takes up too much room in the case and increases the temps too much. My 8800GTX's are running at stock speeds and are too hot to touch because there is just not enough room between the cards (remember I am using the Accelero coolers and that are BIG). I don't really *need* to upgrade, but SLI is a pain, as some games support it well, and other don't. Usually it seems that the games that actually need SLI don't support it well...
I had the display driver problem for awhile, but then it went away, only to come back recently. I too never had the problem in XP 32, but in Vista 64 it somes around every now and then. I wish Nvidia would release a new WHQL driver every month...them and Creative both.
I had the display driver problem for awhile, but then it went away, only to come back recently. I too never had the problem in XP 32, but in Vista 64 it somes around every now and then. I wish Nvidia would release a new WHQL driver every month...them and Creative both.
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lol. Weather or not you want to replace it is irrelevant
. Its going to need replacing . I'd give it 10 months. But thats ok, since P45 supports 8X, 8X crossfire your OK. Doesn't add up. GDDR5 is enormously more expensive and elusive than GDDR3 now. There is no way ATI can afford to step you up from a 512MB GDDR3 card to a 1024MB GDDR5 card for only $40. If there really were two models configured the way you speculate, the price difference would be much more likely to fall closer to $100. If it was 512MB GDDR3 vs 1024MB GDDR3, then maybe.
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∞Velocitymaster∞;1032629562 said:
You don't think any of this is your fault, for allowing NV to sucker you into buying one of their mobos?
I'm thrilled ATI is getting back in the game, just to open up choices and get NV to get off it's lazy, greedy ass with it's mobo business.
~S
ATI is getting back into the intel mobo game? Where did you read that?
lol. Weather or not you want to replace it is irrelevant
I don't know about that, you have to remember that any time a bad product is released there is inevitably a large number of people out there that have absolutely no problems. What happens is that they recommend the product to their friends, and their friends all have bad luck with it. I had my 680i since release and I only stepped up to the 780i because it was offered to me by EVGA. Everyone loves the P35, but you don't see many people bragging about their 965 boards (which was the main competitor in 2006 when the 680i came out IIRC), I don't even think the 975 had that much popularity, but Intel got it right with the P35, thats for sure.
Unless you mean that I will need to get a new board for Nehalem, in which case you are 100% right
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No, back then in 2007 the 8800gtx where the kickass cards and beat all the ATI top end back then when they where king of crop. My current Nvidia board is great and have no issues at all, rock solid. Just now I hear the ATI is releasing a card that can perform just as close as the 280 but cost a lot less. How can predict? Or could be other way around. I know for sure Intel processors completely pwnd AMD top cpu lines as of today.
I'm sure we'll see it by Fall or definitely by the end of the year. The 4870 should be close to it and even if it's not, GTX 260 prices should drop like a rock before GT200b comes out (rumored between September and November). Think of the 260 as between the 9800GTX and 9800 GX2 in terms of price brackets for this generation of cards, and look at the current prices for those cards. The drop for the 260 should fall somewhere between what those two cards are going for today (low $200 - low $400). Of course, by that time, GT200b at 55nm will be cheaper for Nvidia to make, so they may price their refresh cards lower, like they did with G92, and one of those may be a better buy than the outdated GTX 260.
from what i've read the 4850 is gddr3 only, and the 4870 is gddr5 olny but 512mb and 1gb
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exactly. theres no way there will be a 4870 gddr3 since that wouldnt make much sense. the gddr5 is the main difference between the 4870 and 4850 after all.
haven't heard that, but I sure wish they would. the 790fx boards are top of the line, good overclocking tools and all. why they don't is beyond me, a company that is bleeding that bad should be looking for any revenue. and really the the 790fx is far better board from what I have seen then the X38.
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That may well be, but the single 4870s will almost definitely be clocked higher in core, shader and memory. Since on dual core cards you have two cores sandwiched together using the same heatpipe/fan, they need to be clocked lower (see 7900/9800 GX2, 3870 X2). Also, in my own experience with dual core cards and single cards in SLI/Crossfire, the single cards always OC higher than dual cards and run cooler.
i usualy upgrade my video card every tax return time.... about a 12 month cycle... its the best that way because you can still get good coin on your older cards on EBAY....which takes some of the hit off the new card
that said i am either looking at the gtx360/80 or a 5870/5870x2 in march 09
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Radeon-4850-4870,5667.html
looks like my pricing model is spot on...unless TOM's sources is this THREAD...which would make me the source
looks like my pricing model is spot on...unless TOM's sources is this THREAD...which would make me the source
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By stating it as "ATI's predicted" infers that ATI is the one making the prediction. "My prediction of ATI's 4800 pricing model" would be much much better.
yeah... i can agree with that... but nonetheless PREDICTED is still there...it doesnt say Ati's price model revealed.
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I would have to disagree with "enormously more expensive" for GDDR5 vs GDDR3. It costs more than GDDR3 and 4, but I doubt that it is massively more expensive or ATi would have chosen to widen their interface bus just like nVidia.
I wonder if the new architecture will have that problem (clocking). it will def have the heat issue but as the interface is the memory it should take out most of the overhead of running dual GPUs. This is of course based on my very limited understanding so some slat is in order.
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Meh. That's funny, considering how anti-NV Fud usually is.
At +$50, the 260 isn't going to be putting much pressure on the 4870 at all, especially if the performance estimates for the 4870 are close to accurate. Besides, ATI probably left more room to drop the prices on the 4850 further, and they are already expected to represent enormous bang for buck.
~S
At +$50, the 260 isn't going to be putting much pressure on the 4870 at all, especially if the performance estimates for the 4870 are close to accurate. Besides, ATI probably left more room to drop the prices on the 4850 further, and they are already expected to represent enormous bang for buck.
~S
With that enormous die, and based on actual yield numbers on CPU dies I've seen, and the fact that defects increases exponentially with die size, I very much doubt NV is getting anywhere near a good yield. The number 40% has been rumored. Frankly I have my doubts even about that.
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ATI predicted pricing model in 2010
4870X2 199.99
4870 1GB DDR5 139.99
4870 512MB DDR3 99.99
4850 512MB DDR3 79.99
4870X2 199.99
4870 1GB DDR5 139.99
4870 512MB DDR3 99.99
4850 512MB DDR3 79.99
Well, I'm doing pretty good so far...Predicted price drops
4870X2: 399.99 ~ 449.99
4870 1GB DDR5: 279.99 ~ 299.99
4870 512MB DDR3: 239.99 ~ 279.99
4850 512MB DDR3: 149.99 ~ 169.99
GTX 280: 449.99 ~ 499.99
GTX 260: 279.99 ~ 299.99
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Wow, we're so close to 2010 already. I assumed this was some kind of a joke about videocard prices in the far-flung science fiction future until I realized that's 1.5 years away.
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