ATI X1400 Hypermemory

[punkmanmatthew]

I've looked all over the internet for this one. I spent hours searching. All I found was some regedit and ATI tray tools. I used ATI tray tools to do it and it didn't seem to work.

The problem is for example, I start up Crysis and my ram is at like 700 being used. The game starts to load and just before the game loads all the way my ram jumps up to 900 to 1000. I think the hypermemory is kicking in and screwing up my gameplay. I only have 1gb of ram with Vista so when this happens the game play sucks. The hdd just keeps loading and doesn't want to stop. Does anyone know a way to turn this hypermemory off. I don't like it because it takes up ram and makes for a un-enjoyable gaming environment.

 

[punkmanmatthew]

Also, I want to get more ram but don't have the money. So don't be smart and say just get more ram or Vista needs 2gb or something. Thankyou

 

[ClearM4]

That video card is too slow to run crysis. The end.

 

[Red Falcon]

I've looked all over the internet for this one. I spent hours searching. All I found was some regedit and ATI tray tools. I used ATI tray tools to do it and it didn't seem to work.

The problem is for example, I start up Crysis and my ram is at like 700 being used. The game starts to load and just before the game loads all the way my ram jumps up to 900 to 1000. I think the hypermemory is kicking in and screwing up my gameplay. I only have 1gb of ram with Vista so when this happens the game play sucks. The hdd just keeps loading and doesn't want to stop. Does anyone know a way to turn this hypermemory off. I don't like it because it takes up ram and makes for a un-enjoyable gaming environment.

Hypermemory is not your problem, that card is waaaaaay too slow to run Cysis. I'm suprised it even runs at all.

Time for a video card upgrade.

 

[MrGuvernment]

^^ what they said, anything too with "hyperram" just means it uses system ram to make up for it's lack of on board ram, whichmakes it even slowed going out to system ram, the "hyper" part is nothing more then "hype" for marketing.

 

[MrWizard6600]

Man, I knew [H]ard forum was a little stuck up but I didn't think it was this bad. I've run bioshock on an X700 pro with a hack, and I've run UT3 on intel integrated graphics before, I'm sure Crysis can be done on an X1400.

First off however, the X1400 is a laptop chipset is it not? Are you trying to do this on a laptop?

That said, Bioshock on an X700 looked like crap @ all low and 20fps, UT3 on integrated was only barely playable, and you can expect more of the same. As such the gameplay IS going to suck. End of story. If you want it to not suck your going to need a couple hundred dollars to drop on a new graphics card and more ram.

With your memory setup Crysis, a huge memory app in itself, is probably pushing Vista, the biggest ram consuming OS ever, into the page file. Thats why your HDD is kicking in and turning off hyper memory isn't really going to help. Vista is so big I think its safe to say that Vista is only recommended if you have 2 gigs of ram or more. Anything less, and its just uncomfortable. So my first suggestion would be turn off every single process thats not-needed for gaming, or downgrade to XP, and do the same. I know someone who, simply by turning off all his unneeded processes was able to get XPs boot-up footprint down to less then 150MB.

 

[Red Falcon]

Man, I knew [H]ard forum was a little stuck up but I didn't think it was this bad. I've run bioshock on an X700 pro with a hack, and I've run UT3 on intel integrated graphics before, I'm sure Crysis can be done on an X1400.

Are you freakin kidding me?!?! The X700 is way more powerful than the X1400. The X1400 is about the equivalent to the X200 or X300 at most. WTF are YOU talking about? You're saying we're stuck up, speak for yourself.

Read Crysis' minimum requirements as well and you'll see why the X1400 won't work and why it is crap for almost any gameplay.

Crysis requires a minimum of a 6800GT or X800Pro (Vista OS). The X1400 and X700 are no where near these cards. Here.

Also, the OP wasn't talking about Bioshock, he was talking about Crysis. Try running Crysis on your X700. Not happening.

So YOU are the stuck up one when you ASSUME Crysis can be "done" on an X1400. Pff, waste of my time.

 

[Red Falcon]

Man, I knew [H]ard forum was a little stuck up but I didn't think it was this bad. I've run bioshock on an X700 pro with a hack, and I've run UT3 on intel integrated graphics before, I'm sure Crysis can be done on an X1400.

First off however, the X1400 is a laptop chipset is it not? Are you trying to do this on a laptop?

That said, Bioshock on an X700 looked like crap @ all low and 20fps, UT3 on integrated was only barely playable, and you can expect more of the same. As such the gameplay IS going to suck. End of story. If you want it to not suck your going to need a couple hundred dollars to drop on a new graphics card and more ram.

With your memory setup Crysis, a huge memory app in itself, is probably pushing Vista, the biggest ram consuming OS ever, into the page file. Thats why your HDD is kicking in and turning off hyper memory isn't really going to help. Vista is so big I think its safe to say that Vista is only recommended if you have 2 gigs of ram or more. Anything less, and its just uncomfortable. So my first suggestion would be turn off every single process thats not-needed for gaming, or downgrade to XP, and do the same. I know someone who, simply by turning off all his unneeded processes was able to get XPs boot-up footprint down to less then 150MB.

I've had no problem running games and other high-end apps with only 1GB of memory in Vista and so have many other people. The only reason to get more memory is for video/audio/photo editing and possibly gaming. As for the OS itself though, it will run fine on 1GB (even 512MB, but that's pushing it).

Crysis was just a game that had shity programming. No hardware in the world is going to fix that. So his X1400 may be able to run Crysis at 1-2fps, just like your integrated gfx with UT3, but it is by no means playable, even at the lowest settings (which look like HL1).

The OP doesn't need a couple hundred $$$ to upgrade a video card. He can get an 8600GT for under $100 and an 8800GT for as low as $150. 2GB of high-end DDR2 can be bought for under $50. Again, wtf are you talking about?

Also, I want to get more ram but don't have the money. So don't be smart and say just get more ram or Vista needs 2gb or something. Thankyou

Heh, MrWizard6600, you should have listened to the OP. Pwned.

 

[NKDietrich]

Also, I want to get more ram but don't have the money. So don't be smart and say just get more ram or Vista needs 2gb or something. Thankyou

I wish I could tell you that you just needed more RAM bro. But sadly it sounds like your whole rig needs replacing if you want to play modern games. Especially that nasty hog Crysis. A machine that can run modern games without too much trouble, assuming you can't recycle any parts, should set you back no more than $750. Wont be able to max out Crysis but everything should run comfortably. Depending on your CPU and motherboard, which you did not mention, you may be able to get away with just a $200 graphics card swap. Another gig of RAM should only set you back $30-50 max.

If you can't afford upgrade or replacement right now you will have to stick with older games or less intensive games than Crysis.

 

[punkmanmatthew]

Thanks guys. I have a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400. I herd you couldn't change the graphics card in that. But if you can then please let me know. It would be awesome to get a better graphics card. When I got the Dell that was the best card I could get.

 

[PWMK2]

Yeah, you can't change the graphics card on that one. Very few laptops you can change the card on, actually.

Now, it might still be possible to shoehorn the game into playing, but you'll have to do some major tweaks AND get about a gig more memory. You can't turn off hypermemory because the second you do so, the graphics card won't have enough memory to even load the game up. With it on, it's using all of your system memory and you have no room left for other stuff. So you'll need AT LEAST more ram and most likely a lot of patience if you try running Crysis on that rig. It's OK with Vista (I run Vista with 1.5GB of ram no problems, so I believe you when you say you're able to run it on a 1GB with no problems), but definitely more will be needed for Crysis with that setup.

A guy on this page was able to get ~12 FPS in Crysis with everything turned down (except medium textures for some reason; he should have kept it on low textures) and without tweaks at 1200x800:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?page=16&t=120409
If you tweak the ini for a shorter view distance and play the game at 800x600 with all settings at low, you can probably get about ~20-25 FPS and that's good enough for being able to play it.

 

[punkmanmatthew]

Thanks, this really helps. I'm planning on buying some more ram when I go back home after school. Hopefully that will help a lot. Crysis does run all right on low graphics it just loads the hdd to much sometimes.

 

[MrWizard6600]

Are you freakin kidding me?!?! The X700 is way more powerful than the X1400. The X1400 is about the equivalent to the X200 or X300 at most. WTF are YOU talking about? You're saying we're stuck up, speak for yourself.

I stand corrected, the X700 is significantly more powerful. I didn't realize they'd neutered the R535 so much to make it mobile. I should have assumed as much though.

Also, the OP wasn't talking about Bioshock, he was talking about Crysis. Try running Crysis on your X700. Not happening.

I was trying create a parallel situation: high end gen 1 game on midrange gen 1 hardware should work equally as well as high end gen 2 game on midrange gen 2 hardware. Again, if I had known the X1400 to be as weak as it was I wouldn't have claimed crysis could run on it.

I'll give crysis a shot when I get access to the X700 rig. Autta be entertaining if nothing else. I'm betting it'l do it. If it doesn't, it'l only be because the Throughbred doesn't support some SSE instruction Crysis wants.

So YOU are the stuck up one when you ASSUME Crysis can be "done" on an X1400. Pff, waste of my time.

If I'm wasting your time, why are you still typing?

I've had no problem running games and other high-end apps with only 1GB of memory in Vista and so have many other people. The only reason to get more memory is for video/audio/photo editing and possibly gaming. As for the OS itself though, it will run fine on 1GB (even 512MB, but that's pushing it).

Your version of a problem and my version of a problem are apparently different. Vista is't fun at 1GB, and why should it be, the consuming public has moved on to 2 GB systems and Vista is primed to take advantage of the extra resources, unlike XP.

The OP doesn't need a couple hundred $$$ to upgrade a video card. He can get an 8600GT for under $100 and an 8800GT for as low as $150. 2GB of high-end DDR2 can be bought for under $50. Again, wtf are you talking about?

where did I say he needs a couple hundred bux for new hardware? Furthermore, you cant find those components for those prices for a laptop. "wtf are you talking about?"

Heh, MrWizard6600, you should have listened to the OP. Pwned.

 

[Mystic-Micro]

Actually, Crysis has decent hardware compat support, (its still no hl2 though). Ran it on a P4 1.6ghz (A stepping I believe) with 1 gb of ram. 640x480 every damm thing on low. But it ran. Hell I managed to get to the point where you saw the sunrise for the first time with sub-decent but still playable fps ie 15 fps ish. This was also the demo when it came out.

I can only assume an x1400 would blow the 9600 out of the water (its not even the pro, its an Asus GE, ie plain jane 9600), combined with a more recent cpu (than my aging 1.6 P4). This was on XP.. did not try on vista, but if all the review sites show minor drops, id assume its still consistent here.

Just saying Crysis can run on an x1400 (based on my story above)

 

[Red Falcon]

where did I say he needs a couple hundred bux for new hardware?

If you want it to not suck your going to need a couple hundred dollars to drop on a new graphics card and more ram.

Um, that's where you said it.

LOL, don't take what I said personally, I was just giving you crap!

EDIT: Your name reminds me of the wizard on the Alltel commercials.

Wizaaard!

Who summons me... aww it's you guys.

lol