Yep, that's the whole point of this thread. Of course those of us that read about this crap know what's up and what sucks. But even now, it's getting to be a real chore to find out where the cards lay (pun intended).Visable-assassin said:
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computerpro3 said:And where's the ultra extreme (and can you even legally buy an x850xt yet?
Oh and btw as for your bias comment, care to hear the cards I own?
Geforce 5500OC (BG)
Radeon 9600 pro
Geforce 5200
Radeon 9700 AIW
and then these two
And one of us has a reputation as one of the terrible three fan-boys, and it isn't me....
way to miss the point genius...you sat there and called someone biased for something...and then turned around and did the same thing yourself...so maybe you're not biased...maybe you're just 10 years old...in which case I would understand...
jeffoz said:Yeah, fewer choices is better for consumers
Riiiiiiight.
I couldn't agree more that more choices are better.
however, here is what i see as problematic when referring to ATI's lineup - which can also be applied to other manufacturers as well (yes, i do own an ATI myself and have used them in a few comps, so i'm not a !!!!!! of either side):
When there are product naming schemes like 9800, 9600, and 9200 which are one generation and 9700, 9500, and 9000 are an older generation. (assuming i got all the numbers correct). why is it named like this? maybe it's just me, but if i were doing it, i'd name them based on their core, and then on the differences between each in that family. how does joe consumer know that, while a 9700 is surely faster than a 9200, that it is actually an older revision of the core. again, maybe that's just me.
linux drivers - i cannot install ati's linux drivers on my linux machine because i have xfree 4.4. also, why are their windows drivers bundled into one download (radeon series of cards) while the linux drivers are separated out like 9800 series, 9600 series, etc. it's rediculous. i applaud nvidia for their one driver fits all method. this reason alone may keep me from buying ati in the future, seeing as how the performance of ati to nvidia is negligible.
well, that all probably sounded retarded as i am getting really tired as i type.... eh, screw it
Tigerblade
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CleanSlate said:
x300
x600
x700
x700pro
x700xt
x800
x800pro
x850pro
x800xt
x850xt
x800xtpe
x850xtpe
I would have thought it was more like that.....maybe I'm wrong...but dont the new cards only have an increase of about 20Mhz....which is easily achievable on the x800 range?? And shouldn't there be an x800xl and an x800se in there too somewhere?
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People who post here and do not read the forum for opinons, reviews or doing homework on buying components should shot themselves in the foot. This is why we have a forum, for discussion such as this and other topics.
The whole reason why I said "I'd would expect anyone who posts here to know enough about video cards to pick out a video card based on it's specs and preformance as well as price/budget to get what you want." is based on people who are smart enough to roam around the forum, ask questions and ask for help before making a purchase. That is for all those who are Computer Stupid or Not too Familar with the new stuff out there.
Car analogies work with video cards, the same basic concepts are there for the two, how anyone can use a car analogy with steam/HL2 and Linux/Windows is beyond me.
It all comes down to whether you can take the time in reading a lot of reviews, opinons and taking time to ask questions about purchases or not. If you take the time in comparing, reading and asking questions, and figure out your budget and how it'll work, you'll almost always get something that you need that'll work the way you want it for what you paid for, whether or not that means you'll make sacrifices or not depends on each person's situation, ie. if you have to wait a bit more for more cash or going with a smaller Hard Drive for more cash for the better video card, etc....
Obviously if you paid for a $600 video card obviously your gonna get a ferrari of a video card, and if you paid $50bucks for a video card you've got yourself an used car from the 90's it works, but it aint gonna get you 220Mph.
The whole reason why I said "I'd would expect anyone who posts here to know enough about video cards to pick out a video card based on it's specs and preformance as well as price/budget to get what you want." is based on people who are smart enough to roam around the forum, ask questions and ask for help before making a purchase. That is for all those who are Computer Stupid or Not too Familar with the new stuff out there.
Car analogies work with video cards, the same basic concepts are there for the two, how anyone can use a car analogy with steam/HL2 and Linux/Windows is beyond me.
It all comes down to whether you can take the time in reading a lot of reviews, opinons and taking time to ask questions about purchases or not. If you take the time in comparing, reading and asking questions, and figure out your budget and how it'll work, you'll almost always get something that you need that'll work the way you want it for what you paid for, whether or not that means you'll make sacrifices or not depends on each person's situation, ie. if you have to wait a bit more for more cash or going with a smaller Hard Drive for more cash for the better video card, etc....
Obviously if you paid for a $600 video card obviously your gonna get a ferrari of a video card, and if you paid $50bucks for a video card you've got yourself an used car from the 90's it works, but it aint gonna get you 220Mph.
pirateface said:
I agree that you get what you pay for. What I don't agree with is your assumption that finding a site like Hardocp is easy. I got into pc's about 4 years ago, and despite mutliple searches for pc websites I had trouble finding sites with information about what I wanted to know. Part of the problem was that I did not know what I didn't know. The only reason I happened across Hardocp was thanks to a friend who referred me to Overclockers.com, where I happened to find it under linked sites.
It's easy to overestimate how many people are pc literate when you are surrounded by them online.