ATi via Sapphire recently stated that in June of 2005 the new R520...would see "the light of day". As all of you on this great site know, I am not the least impressed with the futilistic fodder that this monolithic and megalomaniac company spins. In laymans terms..I don't believe them! Last summer while waiting for my 800XT PE (that never showed up by the way), we were treated to the excuses that DDR3 ( I believe) was in such short supply that they were unable to mass produce the promised goods. I have a predicition to make...we won't see this R520........for a loooooooooooooooooooong time. Why? In this case ....ATI's history will repeat itself. More failed promies. Facts...we all want facts. The biggest facts you have is the ....past performance by this company!
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ATI...just what we need...another press release?
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mentok1982
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Maybe if you kidnapped the public relation head of ATI and put a really rusty but yet sharp knife to his throat he might tell you the REAL truth.
That is how I got my parents to admit that I am an alien that they found in their trash compactor.
EDIT:
Hey and don't go blabbing about me being an alien.
If you even think about going to the leprachauns about it...well lets just say that I have a rancid jar of mayonaise with your name on it.
Real KRAFT mayonaise too, not that Miracle Whip crap.
That is how I got my parents to admit that I am an alien that they found in their trash compactor.
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Hey and don't go blabbing about me being an alien.
If you even think about going to the leprachauns about it...well lets just say that I have a rancid jar of mayonaise with your name on it.
Real KRAFT mayonaise too, not that Miracle Whip crap.
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More troll bait from Ricko I see.
doublejbass
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Nah, his incoherent rambling is entertaining. Every minute he's not here railing against a company populated with educated people with college degrees by stringing together sentence fragments and misspelt words is another sheep's anus that gets violated. Let him stay here, for the sheep, man, for the sheep!
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Rasha said:
About 20, I'd say
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I think, by now, everyone should just flat out expect both ATI and Nvidia to make announcements about their flagship cards and then have delays.
Afterall, they don't make these flagship cards to sell; they make them to get the rave reviews, be the 'king of the hill', and thus promote sales in the REAL market which is their midrange oem cards. As long as these cards reach the hardware websites and computer magazines, they couldn't care less.
Ultimately, if you're willing to bend over backwards to get these top of the line cards, well, expect to bend over backwards!
Afterall, they don't make these flagship cards to sell; they make them to get the rave reviews, be the 'king of the hill', and thus promote sales in the REAL market which is their midrange oem cards. As long as these cards reach the hardware websites and computer magazines, they couldn't care less.
Ultimately, if you're willing to bend over backwards to get these top of the line cards, well, expect to bend over backwards!
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just beucase they couldnt scale R300 as well as they thought they were going to be able to doesnt mean their next gen NEW PIECE OF SILICON will suffer the same fate.
i mean shit, its like the 5800U was easy to find, now was it?
Terra: i believe R500 is just a watered down R520: i think it is the new architechture... feel free to link me and prove me wrong though...
i mean shit, its like the 5800U was easy to find, now was it?
Terra: i believe R500 is just a watered down R520: i think it is the new architechture... feel free to link me and prove me wrong though...
Ricko you are the biggest anti ATI activist ever, seriously, you have started the two most quickly locked and longest threads about how much ati sucks. Are you ever gonna stop? haha seriously dude you must be very bored and very very mad at ati, or just a huge nvidia f4nboi
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mentok1982 said:
Seriously, how can people put that bastardized concoction on sandwiches? It's like those deep-south nutjobs that deep-fry twinkies...
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Dillusion...in reality, I am not anti-ATi. I just cannot stand corporate hypocrisy. We don't tolerate it from the govt., schools, public officials, Michael Jackson or all the players on steroids....why tolerate it from ATI. I have owned and enjoyed numerous ATI cards and probably will again.
As for my critics such as MisterE and who ever...if you don't like my threads than do yourself a favor....stay out of them. If threads like this are closed, I ask why? I haven't been deragatory, used profanity or been belligerent. Contrary to our elevated view of things this is not flame-bait. Why cannot someone voice their opinions among others who may have something to contribute. The answer my friend is the dark side of all humanity...we cannot stand other peoples opinions....so do as mankind has done to countless others through the centuries...silence them.
As for my critics such as MisterE and who ever...if you don't like my threads than do yourself a favor....stay out of them. If threads like this are closed, I ask why? I haven't been deragatory, used profanity or been belligerent. Contrary to our elevated view of things this is not flame-bait. Why cannot someone voice their opinions among others who may have something to contribute. The answer my friend is the dark side of all humanity...we cannot stand other peoples opinions....so do as mankind has done to countless others through the centuries...silence them.
Ricko said:
So ati equals sapphire now ?
It's great that you think so, since you had some problems bying cards from someone else then ATI in a previous thread, but now that ati = sapphire, you dont have a problem anymore, thats good.
And what about nvidia. Remember when sli was announced, or purevideo ? how long did it take before that was shipped to the market and working, 6 months ?
and now some links to some of Ricko's quality threads.
ATI....directionless but not clueless
Let's quit the whining about the 6800GT...O.K.?
ATI...chases the buck...NOT producing high end cards anymore
Don't be fooled by frequent drivers from ATI
Stupid discrediting to hide the truth...HL2 bench
ATI's vain attempt to hurt Nvidia...has backfired
You don't get the crown...for ...one card
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doublejbass said:
That was priceless ROFLMAO
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Ricko is just trying to get his post count up.
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Terra said:I belive the R500 is baed on the R300 core.
Where as the R520 is a new core design(or that is what the roumors say)
Terra - I might be wrong
I will see if I can find some links through the day. The R500 was originally the R400, the next generation architecture after R300. ATI could scale the R300 so well and add to it they renamed it R420. Also because it(R400/500) wasn't ready and the Xbox 360 deal pushed the R400 back and has become what the R500 is and is going to be in the Xbox 360.
So to break it down for everyone: R300 original architecture: Then came the R350/360(9800 series): Now we have R420/480(still further developed R300core)X800/850. Now in June for the PC, we have the R520 which is still a much further developed R300 with SM 3.0 and support for WGF 1.0+, more pipes, more shaders.
XBOX 360=R500. Totally new architecture, and I believe developed by the ex-ArtX team that brought us the R300 originally.(ATI West) If correct, this card is going to have full WGF 2.0 support. SM 4.0+ support, even though it is not available to us the PC user.
Now, the PC side in 1 year or more after R500 we will see the R600. Which will be the Graphics behind Xbox 360. Only faster. Which makes sense with LongHorn not far behind and LH uses WGF 2.0.
Clear as mud now isn't it?
I am genuinely flattered that my thread history is so well remebered. In reality, most patrons of this great site don't even start any threads, they simply wait in the shadows and then momentarily enter the sunshine with masked critique. No problem. So...what are you trying to say? What is it with you guys who cannot engineer or manufacture anything but post humous criticism. If you didn't have people like myself who are not afraid...you would be bored beyond words.
Sapphire doesn't equal ATI. The point I was making is that ATI has promised materials that it will NOT put out there on time. You have to go back a few years to see this trend in their history. All I have tried to say in this "controversial" thread is that ...in my opinion and based on previous ATI history...we won't see the R520 as promised for some time. That's it. Pretty harmless really...don't you think?
Sapphire doesn't equal ATI. The point I was making is that ATI has promised materials that it will NOT put out there on time. You have to go back a few years to see this trend in their history. All I have tried to say in this "controversial" thread is that ...in my opinion and based on previous ATI history...we won't see the R520 as promised for some time. That's it. Pretty harmless really...don't you think?
Ricko said:
No actually it did come out in time. What didn't happen was "easy find"
I had mine right away as many other did. Nvidia suffered the same problem with the 6800ultras. And to this day 6800 ultras are still hard to find (Retail not etail being the difference) So start the "Nvidia get with the program" thread already. Your history shows that you are a fan boy.
NetRat..You are so wrong...however, you might come by it honestly. I don't want to be to quick to judge you. Let me refresh your memory. Last summer...just 10 (or less) months ago ATI cancelled NUMEROUS orders for the X800XT PE. I pulled mine BEFORE it was cancelled. There were....THOUSANDS of people that were stranded on the sidelines who wanted one of these cards. Once again, let me refresh your memory...ATI had made some false claims about product delivery at the EXACT time that the 6800GT, ULTRA hit the market. The reason that ATI did this was purely distractionary...they knew they couldn't deliver. Why? I know the answer...I actually gave it in a previous thread. So, you got yours...sure there are all these cards out NOW...but, that was then...when they SAID they would have it. They didn't. That is the premise for this whole thread. So...what if they don't deliver on time (as before)? Am I going to get an apology for all the mindless shots I have taken? No...some of you guys are so full of pride...you can't see it. Lighten up. Let someone out there have an opinion that just might be as worthy as....yours!
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Actually ricko, I find YOU to quite boring and unimaginative. Apparently many things seem to anger you. If you think you are providing a service to others with your subjective little threads your pathetically mistaken. With each thread you are showing yourself as an obsessive, arrogant, pompous and self righteous little man, who mainly indulges himself by stirring up a s**t storm wherever he goes. There now, you've bored me again. Good day sir.
ncantador...He who is smallest....must use profanity to make his point. Obviously, you have proven how opaque you really are. The hubridity of some of supposed "limp gawds" is astounding. As I stated earlier, people like yourself hide in the shadows to bite at the heels at those who postulate. This is the manifestation of those who espouse freedom of speech but kill those who exercise it. In reality, you are a follower. Now...did you have a intelligent comment to my post?
Dillusion said:
I used to fish at a wildlife reserve that had great hunting and fishing, and also a nude beach. One day after hiking out of the marsh I noticed all the cars in the parking lot (mine included) had been leafletted by "Ricko" who offered "sensuous massage" to men or women. (and looked sort of like Charles Manson)
Wonder if it's the same guy?
Spank said:
ricko - you leave me speachless. this has to be the 20th flamebait you post on your crusade regarding ATI vs nvidia - without ever having a point, really. you should consider stopping this before you seriously piss a mod off with your trolling and get banned.
PS congrats - you're the first to make it on my ignore-list
Ricko said:
Dude, your presenting an arguement pulling out words that arn't in common everyday usage so that half your audiance can't understand wtf you just said. I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't show any form of intelligence whats so ever. An intelligent man would of been able to say the same thing, using 2/3rd the words and not confusing everyone. Remembering words out of a dictionary doesn't make a comment intelligent.
edit: mispelled, i admit im an idoti
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Shouldn't the title be 'Ricko...Just what we need....another flamebate post'
For someone to be this interested in a company is wrong. Yes we all have our favs, yes we all have our opinions, but man, your obsessed.
For someone to be this interested in a company is wrong. Yes we all have our favs, yes we all have our opinions, but man, your obsessed.
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