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ATI drivers and scaling

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I am planning my next computer and the graphics card is still up in the air.

But I have a concern about ATI cards ability to deliver 1:1, Aspect, and fill modes on monitors that don't support these modes like the Dell 3007.

Nvidia drivers allow choosing any of these modes, why doesn't ATI. Has anyone heard that ATI will implement this driver feature? If not I will probably be forced to go Nvidia.
 
If you haven't already bought nvidia, why not go for them? They're winning the one-man race :)
 
There is a "Use centered timings" option in the Catalyst Control Panel but if the monitor is set to stretch the picture to fill the screen this will always take precedence (and this will be the default option on most monitors without any stretch options at all). I can't see how a driver could provide the functionality you're looking for - are you sure Nvidia cards do this? The only way I can see would be to send, e.g. a 1600x1200 image to the display with the actual picture taking up the central portion and a black border around this, but this is not the same as a monitor which can simply take an 800x600 signal and display it correctly in the centre (since the card is still sending the full screen of data in the Nvidia scenario). What resolution does the monitor display when doing this with a Nvidia card?
 
I have a 9700pro currently and "use centered timings" does very little for monitors without scaling as you indicate. These tend to stretch anything non native sent to them.

Nvidia OTOH seems to send the a native image to the monitor to the monitor with the chosen resolution centralized with black bars.

The lack of this option from ATI may be the deciding factor when I purchase my next card, as I really don't like scaled output that much and stretching games and ruining the aspect ratio is completely unacceptable (potentially happens when playing older games on wide screen)

I don't know how ATI can miss something simple like this for so long.
 
This is true, but then again I wouldn't buy any monitor without it's own scaling engine anyway since I'd still be stuffed if i wanted to run a games console or other input on it in a non-native res. Do you already have the Dell?
 
I don't have one yet as I don't have a dual link card on my current computer. As to why get a monitor without scaling? Because it is the only way to get this huge resolution.

None of the 30" 2560x1600 monitors have internal scaling, nor can you drive native resolution with anything other than a Dual Link card DVI card. These monitors only work with computers.
 
You can still do better than the Dell - the HP 30'' has three DVI inputs, and the Samsung has a better-quality panel. The Appple has an even older panel than the Dell and HP. Other than that there's not much between them - I do see your problem now, I can't believe screens this expensive don't have more than the single input (or three the same). Of course it doesn't help when people buy them anyway instead of telling the manufacturer's where they can shove them! :p
 
Depends what you are looking for. Three inputs that only connect to dual link computers is not much better than one for me. I also consider the S-IPS panels in the Dell/HP better than the PVA panel in the Samsung. The Dell can usually be found cheaper and I find case design nicer as well.

There is no off the shelf scaler chip for resolutions that high, that is why none of the panels have it. It would be nice if they had a solution, but it is no big issue for me. My PC is also may game center and my media center, so there is not much else I would need to plug in.

Anyway it looks like I may be forced to buy my first Nvidia Card this time, graphics card control of scaling is something I see as quite important.
 
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