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Pacwageo

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I apologize in advance because I'm sure this question is asked a lot. I searched, and unfortunately I cannot find a thread that answers my question.

I'm getting ready to build a new machine. I want to go with an intel build, however, I don't like the reviews I'm seeing on the latest nvidia cards and I want to go with an ATI 6850. Are there any known performance issues with going ATI on an intel machine? Would the 6850 be a better choice over a GTX 460 / 470? I'm not interested in my room warming up to 80 degrees when I'm playing games.
 
No performance issues with any of the "cross-branding;" pick a card to your heart's desire.
 
Pacwageo said:
I apologize in advance because I'm sure this question is asked a lot. I searched, and unfortunately I cannot find a thread that answers my question.

I'm getting ready to build a new machine. I want to go with an intel build, however, I don't like the reviews I'm seeing on the latest nvidia cards and I want to go with an ATI 6850. Are there any known performance issues with going ATI on an intel machine? Would the 6850 be a better choice over a GTX 460 / 470? I'm not interested in my room warming up to 80 degrees when I'm playing games.
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no issues at all. but what is it that you don't like about Nvidia currently? granted the currents are pretty power hungry but its nothing like the disparity before
 
Pacwageo said:
I apologize in advance because I'm sure this question is asked a lot. I searched, and unfortunately I cannot find a thread that answers my question.

I'm getting ready to build a new machine. I want to go with an intel build, however, I don't like the reviews I'm seeing on the latest nvidia cards and I want to go with an ATI 6850. Are there any known performance issues with going ATI on an intel machine? Would the 6850 be a better choice over a GTX 460 / 470? I'm not interested in my room warming up to 80 degrees when I'm playing games.
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Processors and graphic cards have no favoritism. In fact, because Intel has a faster architecture than AMD, you will generally get more performance from a graphic card paired with a Core i series processor than with an AMD Phenom II. This is even the case with an AMD graphic card.

The GTX 460 and 6850 have very very similar performance. You can choose to buy either, and will not be disappointed. The GTX 460 uses a little bit more power than the 6850, but they are both very power friendly, and neither one will do much, if anything to your room temperature.
 
That's right. I keep forgetting that ATI is now AMD lol.

I've heard bad things about the Fermi core nvidia video cards. They run extremely hot and consume a ridiculous amount of power for very little gain (in comparison to the 6 series AMD graphic cards)

Thanks for the input everyone. Much appreciated.
 
Pacwageo said:
I've heard bad things about the Fermi core nvidia video cards. They run extremely hot and consume a ridiculous amount of power for very little gain (in comparison to the 6 series AMD graphic cards)
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The GF100 core found in the GTX 465/470/480 were hot and loud relative to its performance. A single 5870 could usually match a 480 or be slightly slower, while using 120 less watts. But in SLI, nVIDIA's scaling with two graphic cards would have good scaling, and topple a 5870 CrossFire.

nVIDIA has corrected this with the more recent GTX 570/580, with better cooling, and reduced power consumption. And the 460 and below are not hot or loud.
 
Pacwageo said:
That's right. I keep forgetting that ATI is now AMD lol.

I've heard bad things about the Fermi core nvidia video cards. They run extremely hot and consume a ridiculous amount of power for very little gain (in comparison to the 6 series AMD graphic cards)

Thanks for the input everyone. Much appreciated.
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they have improved. though that statement is still true its not the extent that it was. currently the 6970 is right behind the 580GTX and uses 80 something watts less (and 140 bucks less). right now as it sits the 580GTX holds the performance crown though. the 6950 is looking like a real value but I would expect Nvidia to lower the price to match rather soon
 
It seems to me that both AMD and nVidia have been adjusting prices to make cards competitive based on performance. And other than the nVidia GF 100 series power and heat are not that much difference. So choosing between them becomes more complex and requires evaluation of other features such as SLI and Physx (where nVidia rules), number of monitors (where AMD rules) and particluar games and settings.
 
guess the first thing to consider is budget... if you are on a "budget" then go with the 68xx

If you can spend what ever you want go with a 69xx

I personally am so tired of AMD/ATI drivers that I really wouldn't think twice about getting a 580 or two just to get back to NV drivers

All depends on how much you can spend really

Intel i7 950 would be a great CPU for any card you pick out ;)
 
I have an Intel Core2Quad and a 4870x2 and both gpus only run at 25% until I buy a new AMD Phenom II 6 core
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rockyjohn said:
It seems to me that both AMD and nVidia have been adjusting prices to make cards competitive based on performance. And other than the nVidia GF 100 series power and heat are not that much difference. So choosing between them becomes more complex and requires evaluation of other features such as SLI and Physx (where nVidia rules), number of monitors (where AMD rules) and particluar games and settings.
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actually outside of the 5800 series both companies have excellent dual GPU scaling. (the 5800 seem to have some kind of bug with that). but certainly they have there strengths and weakness.
 
Revdarian said:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/10/21/amd_radeon_hd_6870_6850_video_card_review/8
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/14/amd_radeon_hd_6970_6950_video_card_review/8

There is the power//temp data by the [H] crew itself, for the rest, there is no problem with mix n match cpu with gpu, other than "if you have an old socket 775 it is wise to stay away from the 460 gtx".
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old as in pentium 4 90nm or any 775?? My cousin's 460 worked fine in my computer while I tested it
 
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