ATI and DirectX 10

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MrPatate

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Hi,

I'd like to know when ati will launch a new series of card with DirectX 10?

thanks!
 
March / April

This is like the seventh thread asking the similiar thing.
 
Do not like to sound like a jack ass, but I do anyways :D

Exactly where do you need DX10!? Most over hyped thing around and it has nothing to show. Craap even the crysis videos are mostly DX9, so you DX10 fanatics can come back in say about a year. Sorry if I offend you Brad, I understand that you guys as a site need something to write about as a site. Sadly it looks like DX10 is going to be anothee "paper launch" for a long time :(
 
sam0t said:
Do not like to sound like a jack ass, but I do anyways :D

Exactly where do you need DX10!? Most over hyped thing around and it has nothing to show. Craap even the crysis videos are mostly DX9, so you DX10 fanatics can come back in say about a year. Sorry if I offend you Brad, I understand that you guys as a site need something to write about as a site. Sadly it looks like DX10 is going to be anothee "paper launch" for a long time :(
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No offense, but it sounds like you're way... -way- out of the loop on this one. They're already some games coming out within the next 6-12 months that will utilize DX 10. The Age of Conan comes to mind.
 
Releasing DX10 with no DX10 games for 6-12 months is a paper launch.
From a gaming only standpoint, that's like releasing a console for $200-$400 (price of Vista) and saying you can only play the consoles predecessors games on it for 6-12 months because there aren't any made for it.
 
who does dx10 belongs to? the hardware (video cards manufactures) or nvidia, will ati be copying it from them. how does it work?

oh. i don't know either. when they are going to, but the 8800s already have now. if you want ati, you should wait for a while more.
 
Microsoft owns DX10.
GPU manufacturers are only following their standard.
Also, 8800 series does not have DX10 capability yet because there are no working Vista drivers.
 
MrMike said:
Releasing DX10 with no DX10 games for 6-12 months is a paper launch.
From a gaming only standpoint, that's like releasing a console for $200-$400 (price of Vista) and saying you can only play the consoles predecessors games on it for 6-12 months because there aren't any made for it.
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Do you even know what a "paper launch" really is? Its when a product is announced as "available" but cannot be found anywhere.
DX10 is a feature. It is real and will be available when Vista is released at the end of Jan. Nvidia will have demo programs to show off their DX10 capabilities. So will ATI when their DX10 card is available. So DX10 is real. Games using DX10 are separate products. Just because they are not available when DX10 is available doesn't make DX10 a no-show. It is actually the way things work in computer technology. The underlying hardware and OS capabilities are made available first, then the applications follow.
Console systems are different as their only intent is gaming. So yes when a console is released, there better be games available.
 
DX10 now is just like a lot of other things; take dual core processors as of now. Not all programs/games/utilities can utilize the technology, but that doesn't mean people aren't thinking ahead. DX10 >will< make a difference, and my guess is that that time isn't too far away.
 
To answer your question MrPatate it looks like Jetway has already released a DX10 vid card that uses the Ati 1950 pro chipset. I dont know much about ati because nvidia is my prefered card but i was looking around on newegg today and i had stumbled on to some Ati DX10 supported card. Also it is alot cheaper than Nvidia's right know but it doesnt look as good (in specs. that is).:rolleyes:

here is the link to newegg's;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814153035
 
Greg-O said:
To answer your question MrPatate it looks like Jetway has already released a DX10 vid card that uses the Ati 1950 pro chipset. I dont know much about ati because nvidia is my prefered card but i was looking around on newegg today and i had stumbled on to some Ati DX10 supported card. Also it is alot cheaper than Nvidia's right know but it doesnt look as good (in specs. that is).:rolleyes:

here is the link to newegg's;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814153035
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I would like a review on that asap!
 
Greg-O said:
To answer your question MrPatate it looks like Jetway has already released a DX10 vid card that uses the Ati 1950 pro chipset. I dont know much about ati because nvidia is my prefered card but i was looking around on newegg today and i had stumbled on to some Ati DX10 supported card. Also it is alot cheaper than Nvidia's right know but it doesnt look as good (in specs. that is).:rolleyes:

here is the link to newegg's;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814153035
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Typo on Newegg, it's DX9 SM 3.0.
 
Greg-O said:
To answer your question MrPatate it looks like Jetway has already released a DX10 vid card that uses the Ati 1950 pro chipset. I dont know much about ati because nvidia is my prefered card but i was looking around on newegg today and i had stumbled on to some Ati DX10 supported card. Also it is alot cheaper than Nvidia's right know but it doesnt look as good (in specs. that is).:rolleyes:

here is the link to newegg's;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814153035
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that just means that yes it is compatible with vista............you can not run DX10 on that achitexture though............
 
It says directx10 support in the site, this means that yes the card will run on a windows with directx10 installed but it will be running in directx9 or later mode. So a directx9 card will run with directx10 installed but it doesn't mean it will have the directx10 candy, it will only run dx9,8,7 and such according to the card's version. If ATI had a DX10 card they would be parading around nvidia, I hear their next card will be sick, competition is nice because the cards get outdated faster also means I get my card cheaper.
 
Moofasa~ said:
Another typo, a x1950 Pro based card is DX9 SM 3.0. There is no possible way a 3rd party vendor can upgrade it to DX10. It's also a 12 (36 shader) pipeline card. That PDF is full of errors.
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Errors, or outright lies. You make the call.
 
Wow!! i didnt mean to start some sort fan war (or something like that) with my previos post.

O well, its interesting and i personally thought that you could upgrade the DX version on a card.

Also does it really matter if you think about it, because once alot of the DX10 games that are going to be coming out are going to support DX9 for the slow ones of us to upgrade cards and wouldnt you think that the would allow current card that run DX9 to upgrade to DX10. usually through the games, because i am currently running an older Geforce4 MX440 vid card that i believe is not originally DX9 and was updated when i installed Halo. ( i could be wrong it was a long time ago):confused:
 
ur confusing urself ;) windows can be upgraded from directx versions :)

u can update the windows from directx 8.1 to 9.0c for example, but ur card may not be able to support all the features of directx9.0 ;)
 
GlimmerMan said:
Do you even know what a "paper launch" really is? Its when a product is announced as "available" but cannot be found anywhere.
DX10 is a feature. It is real and will be available when Vista is released at the end of Jan. Nvidia will have demo programs to show off their DX10 capabilities. So will ATI when their DX10 card is available. So DX10 is real. Games using DX10 are separate products. Just because they are not available when DX10 is available doesn't make DX10 a no-show. It is actually the way things work in computer technology. The underlying hardware and OS capabilities are made available first, then the applications follow.
Console systems are different as their only intent is gaming. So yes when a console is released, there better be games available.
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i thought dx10 would not be released with the vista release, it will be released later.
 
Rumour has it DX10 isn't shipping with Vista, but will be available via a later update. Dunno about you guys but right now seems a good time to wait on any new hardware.
 
sam0t said:
Do not like to sound like a jack ass, but I do anyways :D

Exactly where do you need DX10!? Most over hyped thing around and it has nothing to show. Craap even the crysis videos are mostly DX9, so you DX10 fanatics can come back in say about a year. Sorry if I offend you Brad, I understand that you guys as a site need something to write about as a site. Sadly it looks like DX10 is going to be anothee "paper launch" for a long time :(
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LOL ok.....

go take a look at the dozen or so videos of crysis running in Directx10 on an 8800 GTX, then come back and say that.

In my opinion its wellllll worth it...crysis looks sweeeet
 
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