nissanztt90
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Thanks I had a good chuckle.
Whats so funny?
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Thanks I had a good chuckle.
Whats so funny?
That is fucked up! A single 285 or something will be fine, unless that guy was implying 16xQAA to be used.I gave up on the convo in the other forum.
It is a company that builds custom PCs. Seems like a decent company.
There is a "guru" on thier forums the has 5,000 more posts than the company's own administrator advising a person that plays LotrO and Wow that SLI is a must to play at high res on his 1680 x 1050 LCD that was coming with his "Pre-build system" that has an i7 920 @ 3.33Ghz, 3 GB of RAM, and a GTX 285 (I just looked up the prebuilt specs).
His last comment was that a 9800GX2 would play all games at high settings because it was a dual GPU card....
Once someone says that, I know it is time to move on. Who knows, maybe he is doing that company a favor convincing people to buy what they don't need. As far as I can tell he doesn't work for the company, but hey...who knows LOL!
Most people though, or console people don't know any better - not to sound smug.1920x1200.
This really all depends on what you consider to be acceptable. I want to game at my native (1920) with everything cranked. Games like Stalker: Clear Sky and Crysis Warhead require dual GPUs to achieve that. Of course, the common retort is that those kinds of titles are rare, and most of what we're getting at the moment is console port trash and that thoroughbred PC games are a thing of the past.
This is a true albeit nearsighted sentiment. The current generation of consoles is aging very rapidly. Everything I see coming out for the Xbox just looks awful to me and I know that developers are straining to work with hardware that renders it increasingly difficult to advance the image quality of games. Titles like GTA4 illustrate that that developers have all but given up in the struggle to maintain reasonable framerate and push the IQ envelope. Instead, they're slashing FR in hopes of convincing people that a) image quality of games is still progressing and b) the hardware they bought still has life left in it.
Both of these are false. UE3 and Source no longer impress me, nor anyone I know, because we've been spoiled by CryEngine, Dunia, etc. The (console) consumer needs new hardware, and PC gamers need that to happen in order to attain PC titles that will challenge the current GPUs. Guess this turned into a little bit more than a simple answer, but it's my take on the situation regardless.
That is kind of hard to believe... very hard to believe.I game at 2560x1600 with Evga's 285 SSC. It handles every game I throw at it at max settings with no problems. The only exception is the obvious "Crysis". It chugs towards the end.
The only reason I plan to go SLI is to crank up the AA on the really demanding titles. Not sure I need it at this res, but I'd rather have too much then too little. Given I'll have to buy a 1k or larger PSU and deal with the added fan noise, I prefer the single card solution also. I guess over-kill has its sacrifices.![]()
I see people struggle with 260's at 1920x1200/1080, so thatws what I voted for.
I see people struggle with 260's at 1920x1200/1080, so thatws what I voted for.
I see people struggle with 260's at 1920x1200/1080, so thatws what I voted for.
Well, "struggling" with a 260GTX would not be rescued too much by a 280/285.You have heard of the GTX280 and GTX285??
My 9800GTX was fine at 1080p, perhaps with out 4xAA some of the time. My GTX260 is just fine and dandy at 1920x1200. People who bitch about somethign like that are the suckers that absolutely need 8xAA. In a still image or if im sitting still in a game yeah i can tell a difference. During game play? Hell no. You dont notice 4xAA to 8xAA. Then again there are people who play games to have fun, and people who buy expensive hardware to make games look real good.
My GTX 260 has been working great at 1920x1200 on games such as FEAR2, GTR, Unreal 3, Quake Wars, and Fallout. In FEAR 2 with with 4xAA I get like 90fps avg. But I always turn shadows off in every game (except CS when I played that game), I find them annoying and ugly.
Well, "struggling" with a 260GTX would not be rescued too much by a 280/285.
So... if someone want good graphics, there is no fun to be had?
1920x1200 is not gonna run well on a single gtx285 with AA and AF with games in the near future.
hell, i can think of a few games out now that wont run too well with those settings.
lost planet, crysis warhead, crysis, farcry 2, stalker clear sky, gta 4
That is kind of hard to believe... very hard to believe.
Crysis at 2660x1600? So that's you saying at very high? ... and only starts "chugging" towards the end - of the game?
Call me a cynic, but damn, that is very hard to believe.
Lol. Do you even know what your talking about?
WTF? Do go on...
My point clearly went over your head. There are people who refuse to play a game with out AA. Wheres the fun in that?
Having trouble keepin up?
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Lost planet was a shitty port. Crysis is Crysis...FC2 runs fine on a 260 with 4xAA, and by fine i mean 50+ fps constant, GTA4 is vRam and CPU dependant. And again, i run GTA4 just fine with quite a few settings pretty high.
Whats funny is that i bet most people here saying that a 260/280 will or wont run something...dont even have the card.
So that is still on Very High settings? At 2560x1600? Well, considering, those FPS are "amazing". As for the other games, still pretty impressive - but again, depend on what you can tolerate or are used to FPS-wise.Completely understandable. I tried getting some screen shots but I only have the trial version of FRAPS, so it doesn't capture the fps. However, my averages were about 17fps. High was 28, low was 13. Ugly numbers for sure, but in Crysis they seem smoother then you would expect. I should clarify that I used no AA in Crysis or Warhead, all the other games used highest value offered by the game (i.e. I did not force 16x in Nvidia's Control Panel unless it was an older game without the option). The end of the game is like one notch above a slide show, very annoying but better then I expected. I tried out a lot of games that night, so I probably only played Crysis for about 20 to 30 minutes. That may make a difference as well.
It's never a must.
well i can run crysis nat 1650 x 1080 on my 8800GTX Overclocked to ultra speeds and medium/high details no problem. does get on the stuttery side a bit, but I'm going to waitm till 4850's are $90, then upgrade![]()
4850 wouldn't be an upgrade from an 8800 GTX.
Yeah but the "Holy shit" factor decreases also!Of course you can avoid a lot of this by being content with something like a 1440x LCD and medium filtering.
Damn... That PC...Thank you, Mark!
I do like most responses to this thread. I created the pole to see what others thought here at [H]. I wanted to see if I was all alone on this issue.
I can't stand "know it all" jerks like the one on the other forums that instead of answering the stupid question, he tell him he NEEDS multiple GPUs for his 22" LCD.
The guy was about to buy a pre-build machine having these specs:
Intel Core i7-920 Processor @ 3.33Ghz
Intel X58 Chipset Motherboard
3GB 1333MHz System Memory
NVIDIA GTX 285 Video Card
He specifically stated that He "putz around" on WoW (I mean comon, what do you NEED for WoW), LotRO, and later on in the year D3 (no clue about this one).
All I did, was reply that neither Wow, nor Lotro will need multiple GPUs, and that he would be just fine gaming with that pre-built machine...in fact, very happy gaming with it.
The thread turned into a back and forth, because NO ONE tells THIS guy about hardware apparently.
You can spend $10,000 on a PC if you want "All the options" ... if you have that kind of money to do it...go for it. Have fun. But dont tell other people that they NEED all those bells and whistles to PLAY WOW!
hehehe...
Thanks for all the responses.
And personally, for my eyes, going past 4X AA is pointless at 1920x1200 or 2560x1600. Yes, I can see the difference, but it just isn't a big deal to me. It will never be perfectly smooth, especially on angles close to orthogonal. 4X AA is good enough for me.