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Asus x58 mobo's

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I've been looking to get a x58 Asus board and am a little confused with their logic in having 9 different boards.

The P6T itself is a great board.

The P6T SE is just a slightly gimped cheaper "value" board. Makes sense.

I don't get the 2 Deluxe models, they aren't very different, don't seem to add much in terms of features and even lack some P6T features.

A single Rampage board for hardcore over clockers makes sense, but 2 different models?

The WS line is focused on forward looking high-end features, supporting SAS, PCI-X and generally more and faster PCI connectivity. Surprised to see 3 different models.

Curious if others have comments on what I might be missing in my assessment. I'll add that the Asus website doesn't do a good job differentiating their x58 boards. I've included below the basic specs for those interested. It'll take you a good about of time to glean those differences from the Asus website.



P6T
8 SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
1 x Floppy connector
12 USB
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x16/x4 mode)
1 x PCIe x1
2 x PCI

P6T SE (I get this one - just a slightly gimped cheaper P6T)
no SLI
6 x SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
No floppy
12 USB
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x16/x4 mode)
1 x PCIe x1
2 x PCI

P6TD Deluxe
6 SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
No floppy
14 USB
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x16/x1 or x16/x8/x8 mode)
1 x PCIe x4
2 x PCI
Dual GigE

P6T Deluxe V2
6 SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
1 x Floppy connector
14 USB
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x16/x1 or x16/x8/x8 mode)
1 x PCIe x4
2 x PCI
Dual GigE


WS Workstation line - High end use, SAS, dual GigE, PCI-X, "Diagnosis Card", no PATA, no floppy

P6T WS Professional
6 SATA (+2 eSATA)
2 x SAS ports
12 USB
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16 / x16 mode)
1 x PCIe x1
1 x PCI 2.2
2 x PCI-X
Dual GigE

P6T6 WS Revolution
6 SATA (+2 eSATA)
2 x SAS ports
12 USB
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (at x16 or x8 mode)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (at x16 mode)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (at x8 mode)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slot (at x4 mode)
Dual GigE
No Firewire (IEEE 1394)

P6T7 SuperComputer
CEB Form Factor
CUDA support
6 SATA (+2 eSATA)
2 x SAS ports
12 USB
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (@ x16 or x8)
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (@ x8)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (@ x16)
Dual GigE



Rampage Line in general - OC "focused" with goodies that I won't go into detail here.
How "useful" do people find these feaures? Sounds "fun", but I typically easily make my OC adjustments over a few days and never look back. Not sure there is anything really useful here for the $. Thoughts?

Rampage II Extreme
12 USB
7 x SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
Floppy connector
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 support at x16, x8, x8, or dual x16 speed
2 x PCIe 2.0 x 1 ( the PCIEx1_1 (black) is compatible with audio slot)
1 x PCI 2.2
Dual GigE
SupremeFX X-Fi Audio Card

Rampage II GENE
microATX
12 USB
7 x SATA (+1eSATA)
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
No floppy
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 support at dual x16 speed
1 x PCIe 2.0 x4
1 x PCI 2.2
 
I think it makes alright sense. The P6T Deluxe V2 replaced the P6T Deluxe, and the original Deluxe had a feature the V2 doesn't which was a SAS controller. So there's really only 3 boards in the normal line up.

The WS Professional and Revolution meet two different segments as the professional includes two PCI-X slots which is still a pretty fast bus and important to provide an option for since there are still a ton of very expensive very good cards which use this bus. This lets you use an i7 with that hardware. The Revolution has 6 PCI-E slots and spaced perfectly for double or tri Crossfire/SLI making it a great gamer board or highend workstation part. The Supercomputer came out after the first two and has 7 PCI-E slots and two NF200 chips.

The Rampage II line has two models because ones a normal size ATX board, the other is Micro ATX. These boards are the only ones I don't really understand in the line up, the Rampage II Extreme is awfully expensive and supposed to be geared towards overclockers/gamers. Yet, almost all of the X58 boards overclock reasonably well, and particularly what I don't like is that the 2 PCI-E x16 slots are right next to each other so if you run two video cards they butt up against each other which doesn't make much sense to me on a gamer orientated board.
 
All the x58 boards overclocking well is fine, but that's not what you pay for with the rampage. You're paying for the extra onboard buttons, lights that display voltage, the external display screen, ect.
 
So what role does the Deluxe play? With SAS gone in the V2, the only differentiators I see beyond the P6T is dual GigE and 2 extra USB ports. The Deluxe actually drops the JMicron JMB322 of the P6T giving it 2 less SATA ports.
 
Rampage Gene is Micro ATX so good for small case. Get Rampage Extreme II for best OC/Gaming or if too much $ settle for Deluxe V2.
 
The P6T deluxe has a 16 phase power design whereas the P6T is 8 phase. In theory 16 phase should help with higher overclocks.
 
Abit667 said:
I think it makes alright sense. The P6T Deluxe V2 replaced the P6T Deluxe, and the original Deluxe had a feature the V2 doesn't which was a SAS controller. So there's really only 3 boards in the normal line up.

The WS Professional and Revolution meet two different segments as the professional includes two PCI-X slots which is still a pretty fast bus and important to provide an option for since there are still a ton of very expensive very good cards which use this bus. This lets you use an i7 with that hardware. The Revolution has 6 PCI-E slots and spaced perfectly for double or tri Crossfire/SLI making it a great gamer board or highend workstation part. The Supercomputer came out after the first two and has 7 PCI-E slots and two NF200 chips.

The Rampage II line has two models because ones a normal size ATX board, the other is Micro ATX. These boards are the only ones I don't really understand in the line up, the Rampage II Extreme is awfully expensive and supposed to be geared towards overclockers/gamers. Yet, almost all of the X58 boards overclock reasonably well, and particularly what I don't like is that the 2 PCI-E x16 slots are right next to each other so if you run two video cards they butt up against each other which doesn't make much sense to me on a gamer orientated board.
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This was useful, thanks. Have my sights set on an Asus X58 board and this helped narrow it down
 
Abit667 said:
The WS Professional and Revolution meet two different segments as the professional includes two PCI-X slots which is still a pretty fast bus and important to provide an option for since there are still a ton of very expensive very good cards which use this bus. .
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I was originally going to get one of these boards, because I have a PCI-X SCSI card from Adaptec. Then I discovered that Adaptec is NOT providing Windows 7 drivers for this card! :mad:
 
so other than the floppy there is no diff between the p6t v2 and the p6td deluxe?
 
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