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Vegasr said:That is the reason I am waiting for the Striker. EVGA is not in the mobo business and support for their 680i won't be as good as a mainstream mobo manf. I read somewhere that EVGA has to partner with Nvidia to get a bios update.
I just question the longevity of support on Nvidia's reference 680i mobo that EVGA is selling.
The good thing is that the board EVGA is selling seems to be rock solid and is recommended by many.
Eagle156 said:So what exactly makes these boards so special that justifies its $400 price tag?
Skott said:How would 1T screw anything up? Ideally 1T is better than 2T.
AppaYipYip said:The Asus board has many fine features that, to me, made it well "worth" the investment.
I'll never understand why some people get so angry and combative just because some people value things differently than they do.please tell me them, im sure everyone would love to know????
honestly no MOBO is worth 400 bucks. no matter how cool it looks. Unless it comes with onboard XFI, WIFI, and tons of LEDs. But that keychain that comes with it man....i just gotta have one o dem.
Hurin said:I'll never understand why some people get so angry and combative just because some people value things differently than they do.
I'm waiting for the final review from [H] (initial reports on OCing haven't been good). But if this board OCs as good or better than the eVGA, I'll be upgrading because:
So, you can probably take all those individually, and crap all over them. Good for you. But taken together, those things equal value to me and many others. And, since I've already spent $260 on a bare-bones motherboard, selling it and spending another $100-120 for a premium one does not seem crazy to me.
- Asus build quality.
- "8-phase cap-less power design."
- Good luck with Asus in the past.
- No resistors on the back of the motherboard around CPU.
- Nice LEDs (blue) that can be turned off.
- All-copper passive cooling.
- Dynamic DTS (converts your audio to a DTS signal).
- Various other bells and whistles.
The need to crap on things like this says more about the people doing the crapping than it does about the product or the people purchasing it.
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If I'm willing to pay that price, and they sell a lot of them at that price, then they aren't over-charging. Those who aren't willing to pay that price have alternatives.buffbiff21 said:im not angry and combative dude, i STARTED this topic.
I have absolutely nothing agaisnst ASUS, i have tons of their mobos, and they have all worked fine. But they were all $~250, not ~400. And while none of those features appeal to me, i dit not CRAP on the board, i am spelling out that they are overcharging, and you know it. Check some of my other posts in this topic! I actually think the Striker looks dope, and even though the eVGA is not without flaws, you can easliy spend 150 to upgrade some different key components, say a vid card or a processor.
and for the record i cannot remember when 260 was "barebone..."
Some dude in a review on Newegg claims to have the popping on the Striker Extreme. Though, of course, who knows how reliable he is.revenant said:anyways, I am not jumping to SLI again until I know the issues with the 680i chipset and SLI sans audio popping/cracking is fixed. or was that confined to the Foxcon 680i mobo? (eVGA and BFG)
Yes, I do...Thursaiz said:You people never complain that a graphic card is worth nearly $900.00, so why complain about a bump on motheboard prices? If you are building a system, what is another $100.00 for all of these features?
not a very large feat... at all..Hurin said:And a $40 portable music player will sound just as good as an iPod.
I guess if youre pussyfooting it...A Geo will get me to work just about as fast as my Z28.
I dont want it, and i'm not demeaning anyone. I was demeaning the price of the board, not those who buy it. There is a difference.Someone asked "why complain?". . . the answer is: Because people want things that they can't afford. So, they complain and demean those who choose to purchase it.
Never called anyone an idiot. People do what they will with their money and that is fine, im sure the things I spend my money on someone would consider too high. I find the fact that any single CPU board costs $400 is rediculous, and I stated as such. I did not say anyone who bought it was retarded, its their money and they can waste it however they want.Everyone would want this board if it were $150. Yet, people who want it and are able to meet the market-set price are somehow idiots.
A lot of the computer stuff you can buy is a bit over the top. But a lot of other things too, like hi-fi, houses, cars etc. People got money to burn, so they will buy expensive goods. Maybe not because they need them, but because it gives them a good feeling. Just for the coolness factor. Hey, why buy a BMW when a Dodge Neon gets you from A to B too? Or why buy a house with two bathrooms when you can use only one at a time?lithium726 said:Yes, I do...
Sorry, but most of those features are pretty useless and wont see any significant use, outside of "ohhh, thats cool" when you turn it on the first time for the majority of users.
read my most recent post.roflcopter said:A lot of the computer stuff you can buy is a bit over the top. But a lot of other things too, like hi-fi, houses, cars etc. People got money to burn, so they will buy expensive goods. Maybe not because they need them, but because it gives them a good feeling. Just for the coolness factor. Hey, why buy a BMW when a Dodge Neon gets you from A to B too? Or why buy a house with two bathrooms when you can use only one at a time?
8 phase power you say? The Gigabyte DQ6 has 12 phase power, for $197.Hurin said:"8-phase cap-less power design."
enzoshadow said:I don't understand why some people so outrage about Asus charging 400$ for the Striker Extreme? Not like this is their only 680i board. They did offer the P5N32-E with a competitive price with the EVGA's 680i board. It can be purchases for 230~250$ at a lot of reputable online retailer if you try to look for it.
P5N32-E is the one should be compare to the EVGA's 680i, and Asus merely offer the "options" for people who wants the extra function for 100$ more. They didn't choke us on the neck and force us to buy the Striker.
It's actually pretty apt. Most people who turn up their noses at performance sports cars are essentially saying: "All that money for gimmics and ego-fluffing. . . when my Honda gets me where I want to go just as well." Same thing with a motherboard. . . all you really need it to do is connect up your CPU, RAM, and other devices. But, the enthusiast likes to have something extra.lithium726 said:I hate the whole car analogy.
I dont want it, and i'm not demeaning anyone. I was demeaning the price of the board, not those who buy it. There is a difference.
That's an awfully fine line you're drawing. To repeatedly state that a price is "ridiculous" and "retarded" is to cast aspersions on those who are willing to pay it. If a price is "retarded," only a retard would pay that price. Now, if you were to say: "That price is way too high for me. I'll never buy one". . . that's a statement that doesn't cast aspersions on those who disagree with you and are willing to pay the higher price.I did not say anyone who bought it was retarded, its their money and they can waste it however they want.
It is absolutly a fine line, I will not contest that. Sorry for not being more clear.Hurin said:That's an awfully fine line you're drawing. To repeatedly state that a price is "ridiculous" and "retarded" is to cast aspersions on those who are willing to pay it. If a price is "retarded," only a retard would pay that price. Now, if you were to say: "That price is way too high for me. I'll never buy one". . . that's a statement that doesn't cast aspersions on those who disagree with you and are willing to pay the higher price.
I'm not saying people should get all butt hurt over that sort of language. But when you hear it every day, post after post, from so many people who are (at least obliquely) demeaning those with whom they disagree, you eventually feel like tellling all these people to STFU.
But here's the thing... Those people who turn their noses, unless they are blind, can see/feel/hear the difference in a sports car, whether or not they would spend the money on it. When I start up my computer, I cant tell if there is a $400 Asus board or a solid $100-$150 Abit/Asus/anyone else who makes decent boards these days.It's actually pretty apt. Most people who turn up their noses at performance sports cars are essentially saying: "All that money for gimmics and ego-fluffing. . . when my Honda gets me where I want to go just as well." Same thing with a motherboard. . . all you really need it to do is connect up your CPU, RAM, and other devices. But, the enthusiast likes to have something extra.
That's what the keychain is for!lithium726 said:When I start up my computer, I cant tell if there is a $400 Asus board or a solid $100-$150 Abit/Asus/anyone else who makes decent boards these days.
lithium726 said:[snip] When I start up my computer, I cant tell if there is a $400 Asus board or a solid $100-$150 Abit/Asus/anyone else who makes decent boards these days.
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QFT..revenant said:when you look into your pc and see the pretty blue light.....this time different mobo, higher price..
lithium726 said:Yes, I do...
I find the rising component prices disturbing. I dont think I will ever pay more than $150 for a mainboard and no company will con me out of $650-700 for a graphics card, its getting a little retarded.
After youre finished tweaking, it does the exact same thing as a much cheaper board. Maybe 100mhz faster, the difference is neglidigable. That money you spent on the board to overclock could have been better spent on a better chip.
Sorry, but most of those features are pretty useless and wont see any significant use, outside of "ohhh, thats cool" when you turn it on the first time for the majority of users.
roflcopter said:Maybe a stupid question but can this board do 'half multipliers' like 7.5? I would like to run it on 7.5 * 400 MHz if possible.
SILVR 6 said:QFT
The prices are getting rather stupid for the top end components these days. Granted I have spent my fair share on top of the line purchases a few generations ago, TNT2 Ultra for close to $400 (CDN $$$) Or when the Abit KT7A-RAID SKT A boards were all the rage, and also when the Core Duo laptops came out I jumped on the bandwagon rather early.
As of late (past 2 years or so) being in the loop with hardware and what not I find it hard to spend anymore money than I need too. Maybe its becasue i'm frugal its not becasue I coudln't go out and spend the money for a $400 dollar motherboard I just can't justify that much money when something cheap does EXACTLY the same.
For the comment about 900 dollar gpu setups being the same as expensive motherboards I have to disagree there to a certain point. Spending that much money on an SLI/X-Fire setup is tough to justify unless you have a 3007WFP, BUT you spend 900 bux on 2 gpu's vs say 600 dollars, you see WAY more performance for your dollar. I doubt there would be a noticeable difference in performance in motherboards even if it costs 150 more.
I do agree some people like to flame others becasue they can't afford to get a piece of hardware they want but can't have, its normal human nature. In my mind I often just shake my head at the person that goes "OMFG ROFLCOPTR look at the sweet mobo I bought" only for the bragging or bling factor.