ARM’s new processor cores announced

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deruberhanyok said:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...pus-are-30-percent-faster-and-more-efficient/

Updated low end core, regular core and performance core designs from ARM.

overall nice performance increases on paper but will probably be a while before we see them in any new processor designs.

I like their suggestion for a laptop processor that could be built with 8 of the cortex X2 cores.
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Not expected to have retail offerings till mid-2022, but yes the Cortex 8.5 stuff which is the basis for the A14 and the M1 has proven pretty awesome, the v9 spec is offering some pretty good gains over that. Should make for some nice chips.
 
Verge said:
When is WWDC again?
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Heh, 10 days or so away.

I was on a call with our Apple reps yesterday and they were like "stay tuned, we might have more Macs to show off at WWDC" but I couldn't get a peep out of them regarding any new/upgraded M1 silicon.

...not that I expected any actual information from them, but I had to ask anyways.

Lakados said:
Not expected to have retail offerings till mid-2022, but yes the Cortex 8.5 stuff which is the basis for the A14 and the M1 has proven pretty awesome, the v9 spec is offering some pretty good gains over that. Should make for some nice chips.
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I like the idea of competitive ARM procs for Windows / Linux systems. Really though, the biggest improvement they'd provide for most everyday use is battery life. If it's "fast enough" for everything else, that alone could make for solid competition for AMD and Intel.

Firestorm/Icestorm have been really impressive performers, A14 is really quick and M1 even moreso, obviously. And Apple's got a good GPU design too (given the benchmarks we've seen out of the Macs and now the iPad Pro).

as an Ubuntu fan, I'd love to see some of these newer cores used in some kind of open, supported platform - SBC or even an open firmware laptop like Pinebook - but I don't think Broadcom, Rockchip etc are likely to pop out a high end SOC for inexpensive systems any time soon.



Of course, with the tech shortage apprently continuing indefinitely, I'll be happy to see anything new with any kind of regular availability.
 
deruberhanyok said:
Heh, 10 days or so away.

I was on a call with our Apple reps yesterday and they were like "stay tuned, we might have more Macs to show off at WWDC" but I couldn't get a peep out of them regarding any new/upgraded M1 silicon.

...not that I expected any actual information from them, but I had to ask anyways.



I like the idea of competitive ARM procs for Windows / Linux systems. Really though, the biggest improvement they'd provide for most everyday use is battery life. If it's "fast enough" for everything else, that alone could make for solid competition for AMD and Intel.

Firestorm/Icestorm have been really impressive performers, A14 is really quick and M1 even moreso, obviously. And Apple's got a good GPU design too (given the benchmarks we've seen out of the Macs and now the iPad Pro).

as an Ubuntu fan, I'd love to see some of these newer cores used in some kind of open, supported platform - SBC or even an open firmware laptop like Pinebook - but I don't think Broadcom, Rockchip etc are likely to pop out a high end SOC for inexpensive systems any time soon.



Of course, with the tech shortage apprently continuing indefinitely, I'll be happy to see anything new with any kind of regular availability.
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Not at all, which is why NVidia working with MediaTek to put out some generic ARM processors is kind of a big deal. I think that is a partnership that could really work out well for a lot of things, I would love to see some more mainstream SBC offerings out there too. I mean I love my Pi4 but its GPU is a little lacking.
 
So is this faster than Apple's M1? Maybe this is the reason Nvidia bought ARM?
 
if the numbers they have on paper hold up, it will be somewhere between Apple’s A12 and A13.
 
DukenukemX said:
So is this faster than Apple's M1? Maybe this is the reason Nvidia bought ARM?
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The M1 is based off the 8.5 spec 9 brings big increases over 8 but not sure about 8.5.
Regardless what makes the M1 so fast is the whole package not just the cores. But there is nothing stopping Apple from launching the M2 using the v9 cores.
 
deruberhanyok said:
I like the idea of competitive ARM procs for Windows / Linux systems. Really though, the biggest improvement they'd provide for most everyday use is battery life. If it's "fast enough" for everything else, that alone could make for solid competition for AMD and Intel.
some kind of open, supported platform - SBC or even an open firmware laptop like Pinebook - but I don't think Broadcom, Rockchip etc are likely to pop out a high end SOC for inexpensive systems any time soon.
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Im also interested in such a thing. A decent gaming PC is pushing out 55w/75w idle and 300+w load when gaming or doing serious productivity. This is okay, but for 90% of the stuff i do on my PC i could get by on a 7-15 w power budget with an updated ARM SOC. Don't get me wrong i don't want to use a tablet or phone for casual consumption not even if it's tethered, i want to keep the control and privacy a Linux distro affords. So if an updated ARM tinker type board comes out and it's significantly faster than say a RPi4 then i would consider building a console type PC, suspend it to RAM and then have the ARM board running everything else. With a KVM you wouldn't even need to have two mice / keyboard just press one button to switch and space bar to wake up the gaming / high end productivity (streaming if that's your thing) machine.

Of course it all comes down to price as there are some decent enough laptops / MiniPC's already with a low idle/casual use power budget where you could already kind of do this, but they cost three times the amount, have double or triple the power consumption and are not as modular or compact & usually have a really annoying noisy fan. They are also not as fun to play around with.
 
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