AquaDuct 360 Review

Too bad it takes eight months to get AC parts to the US resellers......
 
Decent review, I am disapointed that the thermal testing didn't really accurately show how the Aquaduct itself stacks up to the competition. With different waterblocks being used it makes an accurate assessment of the unit in question dubious at best.

Overall it is a nice unit but much too pricey for what it is in my opinion--a 50$ radiator and 50$ pump dressed up in a nice paint job with cool special effects and a 530$ price tag.
 
With the rising Euro and the falling dollar, it'll be damn near impossible to get anything from Europe anymore watercooling wise that is cheap.
 
Erasmus354 said:
Decent review, I am disapointed that the thermal testing didn't really accurately show how the Aquaduct itself stacks up to the competition. With different waterblocks being used it makes an accurate assessment of the unit in question dubious at best.

Overall it is a nice unit but much too pricey for what it is in my opinion--a 50$ radiator and 50$ pump dressed up in a nice paint job with cool special effects and a 530$ price tag.
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I don't even think the pump is worth $50, and the a nice triple rad can be had for less than $50 nowadays.

Aquacomputer has always been overpriced, never saw a reason as to why people even use them.
 
Kuyt said:
Aquacomputer has always been overpriced, never saw a reason as to why people even use them.
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Maybe because they make the best looking product and have great performance? AC users are ones that don't like to buy the same boring stuff.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Maybe because they make the best looking product and have great performance? AC users are ones that don't like to buy the same boring stuff.
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Yep, thank goodness I don't have to be bored when I stare at my watercooling system all day long. I mean those other non-AC users have to amuse themselves with boring things like looking at the computer monitor instead of staring at their sweet watercooling setup. :rolleyes:
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Maybe because they make the best looking product and have great performance? AC users are ones that don't like to buy the same boring stuff.
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Best looking is subjective.

If that defense worked, we'd have way more Mac users ;)
 
Erasmus354 said:
Yep, thank goodness I don't have to be bored when I stare at my watercooling system all day long. I mean those other non-AC users have to amuse themselves with boring things like looking at the computer monitor instead of staring at their sweet watercooling setup. :rolleyes:
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hey, some folks like to drive the porsche rather then the pinto. The porsche cost alot more, but they both get you from point A to point B.

As far as the 360, I think it's a nice piece of equipment, just not woth the $$ to me. But that's subjective, to each his own. Everyone asigns their own value. Some folks spend a shitload of $$ on ammo to go shooting at the range every other weekend, some would say "that's too much $$!" Whatever, you get me meaning.

If I was rich or won the lotto or someting, I'd buy a few. Until then, I'll just press my nose against the glass like I do at the porsche dealership.;)
 
Fail analogy

The porshe and pinto have much different performance abilities

Sure, custom built and AC both watercool your chips, but one is better... and cheaper.

Think of it like a Pinto with Porshe performance, for 1/3rd the cost of a Porshe with pinto performance.
 
Shlomo said:
Fail analogy

The porshe and pinto have much different performance abilities

Sure, custom built and AC both watercool your chips, but one is better... and cheaper.

Think of it like a Pinto with Porshe performance, for 1/3rd the cost of a Porshe with pinto performance.
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actually your analogy fails as the performance difference between the garden hose and AC is negligable for all but those needing the last razor edge on margins. For most of us, the difference in performance is not the issue. Just want something that works, and looks nice, and if we're willing to spend OUR money on it, why the fuck should it bother you or anyone else that some folks make that decision?:rolleyes:

I STILL don't understand the time-wasting bullshit of big bore/small bore hate
 
topcat989 said:
actually your analogy fails as the performance difference between the garden hose and AC is negligable for all but those needing the last razor edge on margins. For most of us, the difference in performance is not the issue. Just want something that works, and looks nice, and if we're willing to spend OUR money on it, why the fuck should it bother you or anyone else that some folks make that decision?:rolleyes:

I STILL don't understand the time-wasting bullshit of big bore/small bore hate
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lol, pot kettle black
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Just look at the rig in his sig file - explains why cheap is important :rolleyes:
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Important or not, I'm against needlessly spending money... If there's no performance or silence difference, and the only benefit (for about 2x the cost of a normal radiator+pump) is aesthetics (which, are debatable considering it's an external unit!) then the ROI, to me, is in the negatives!
 
People like to needlessly spend money. They don't like it, however when you point out that they're wasting money. :p They've earned the money though, so although it may piss you and I off, they can spend it as stupidly as they wish. And if you ask an intelligent question on why they're spending that money on parts that can do the same for half the price, you can usually expect the STFU ITS MY MONEY response.
 
Oh, I have no qualms with anyone spending their own money. The more the better IMO... I'm just giving a reason why I, personally, would not resort to this particular company. One other would be the delay between the enthusiast outcry against aluminum, and AC's uptake of this idea... Companies like swiftech (hell, even ULTRA for that matter) scour forums and take users/reviewers suggestions, and put them into practice. I reward competance. Not saying that AC isn't competant, but not nearly as competant. I also can't spell competant, which makes me incompetant.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
People like to needlessly spend money. They don't like it, however when you point out that they're wasting money. :p They've earned the money though, so although it may piss you and I off, they can spend it as stupidly as they wish. And if you ask an intelligent question on why they're spending that money on parts that can do the same for half the price, you can usually expect the STFU ITS MY MONEY response.
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Actually people without money look at it this way.........

I am a firm believer that if you have to look at the price tag you really couldn't afford it anyways. :p
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
People like to needlessly spend money. They don't like it, however when you point out that they're wasting money. :p They've earned the money though, so although it may piss you and I off, they can spend it as stupidly as they wish. And if you ask an intelligent question on why they're spending that money on parts that can do the same for half the price, you can usually expect the STFU ITS MY MONEY response.
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if I went through your budget I sure I could find something you spend money on that I could say EXACTLY what you said here. What's funny is your response would likely be "I like it it isn't a waste to me it's my money so STFU" :rolleyes:
 
topcat989 said:
if I went through your budget I sure I could find something you spend money on that I could say EXACTLY what you said here. What's funny is your response would likely be "I like it it isn't a waste to me it's my money so STFU" :rolleyes:
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I would call it perceived value.
 
I wonder when the last time [H]ard|OCP gave extra points to a video card because it had an awesome decal on the heatsink....

Price / Performance is an important and valuable consideration as well. If we are going to play the money is no object game then why not get a triple cascade cooler?
 
I should really get around to changing my signature more often, lucky for me i'm running a 8800gt, MCR 320 and a dtek fuzion now...

Also, the performance difference is not subjective. The bowed/nozzled fuzion beats the DI. The MCR 320 is the same damn radiator in the AC system. The d5 pump pushes more water with a better head. What is subjective about that?

Funny thing is, all your arguement boiled down to was that "lol look at ur rig lolol, u have to spend on a budget becuz youd rather spend monies on more important stuff than ur pc, lol i drive a bmw u drive a saturn lolol gtfo"

Now all I get from that is "I have more money than you, therefore I am better than you" which can't be any more fucked up. Now the frightening thing is, my WC system IS better than that aquaduct 360... for less... much less.

Show me a pump that matches the D5, and a block that beats the bowed/nozzled fuzion for the same price and i'll buy into that. But anything made in Germany will not be that cheap, and the AC products do not perform as good, so yeah...I'll let you know when I feel like spending 530 dollars for less than 250 dollars worth of performance.

In the end, it just all boils down to is "A fool and his money are soon parted". That or monkeys are just attracted to shiney objects. Either one applies to this just perfectly.
 
Shlomo said:
I should really get around to changing my signature more often, lucky for me i'm running a 8800gt, MCR 320 and a dtek fuzion now...
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Still can't hide the CPU choice - clearly a budget shopper :rolleyes:

Shlomo said:
Also, the performance difference is not subjective. The bowed/nozzled fuzion beats the DI. The MCR 320 is the same damn radiator in the AC system. The d5 pump pushes more water with a better head. What is subjective about that?
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Nobody said performance is subjective...... For the record you said "Sure, custom built and AC both watercool your chips, but one is better... and cheaper." Since you didn't define better it is very subjective.

Shlomo said:
Funny thing is, all your arguement boiled down to was that "lol look at ur rig lolol, u have to spend on a budget becuz youd rather spend monies on more important stuff than ur pc, lol i drive a bmw u drive a saturn lolol gtfo"
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Spoken like a budget shopper

Shlomo said:
Now all I get from that is "I have more money than you, therefore I am better than you" which can't be any more fucked up. Now the frightening thing is, my WC system IS better than that aquaduct 360... for less... much less.
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I do and also own a Aquaduct 360. It is a incredible peice of engineering.

Shlomo said:
Show me a pump that matches the D5, and a block that beats the bowed/nozzled fuzion for the same price and i'll buy into that. But anything made in Germany will not be that cheap, and the AC products do not perform as good, so yeah...I'll let you know when I feel like spending 530 dollars for less than 250 dollars worth of performance.
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Who cares? It is your choice to throw a loud ass pump in your case. Loud isn't subjective either ;)

Shlomo said:
In the end, it just all boils down to is "A fool and his money are soon parted". That or monkeys are just attracted to shiney objects. Either one applies to this just perfectly.
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Or you just can't afford quality engineering?
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Or you just can't afford quality engineering?
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So I could produce some quality turd from you, made from the finest food and you'd buy it eh?

All you managed to do is take the "enthusiast" out of being a Computer Enthusiast. I'm sure you run a 3k boutique built system, only the best for the best eh? We are on a overclockers forum, for people who overclock, who take those bottom budget CPUs and make them scream. I think you forgot what HardOCP stands for.

Now, what I don't understand is how a "budget shopper" is such a EVIL, FOUL word out of your mouth. Kind of like those people who spit out liberal like its the worst thing on this planet. That or those dirty ENVIRONMENTALISTS. Yes, I shop on a budget because I know that there is no reason to buy that e6800 when I can get that 6300 to superpi higher. That and there is no reason to buy a AC 360XT when I can get better performance for cheaper.

Once again, I think you forgot where you are at. Here at Hard Overclockers Comparison Page, we buy those budget CPUs, overclock the piss out of them, and end up 500+ dollars ahead of those fools who have much more money than brains.

So yeah, I think i'm done here. The only arguement you have is that the AC 360XT is engineered better than any other loop. Now my counter to that is, all I see in the AC360XT is a bunch of shit inside a gift bag. You buy it for the looks, and end up with just a steaming turd. But you know, maybe one day when the Euro crashes hard (probably within the next 3 years) you can buy one of these "superior engineered" pieces of crap on the cheap. Call me when that happens.
 
Shlomo said:
So yeah, I think i'm done here. The only arguement you have is that the AC 360XT is engineered better than any other loop. Now my counter to that is, all I see in the AC360XT is a bunch of shit inside a gift bag. You buy it for the looks, and end up with just a steaming turd.
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You obviously didn't read the review, but I have come to expect that purely based on your un-informed comments. But, yes I bought the 360XT purely based on the engineering - and it doesn't disappoint. Doesn't hurt it cooled my loop within 2c of a loop consisting of a DDC, thermochill 120x2, and fuzion block. Not a bad cooling turd :confused:
 
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