Apartment has Modem built into wall? Security concerns?

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  1. triarii3

    triarii3 Gawd

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    Hi guys

    I recently moved into an apartment complex. It's internet and TV package is include in the high-cost rent.

    The apartment already has a modem built in the wall somewhere. I don't know where the modem is and if I'm sharing this modem with my neighbors.

    All I know is that when I plug in my router into the Ethernet port in the wall, it works. no activation needed.


    What security concerns should I have? What right should I have in terms knowing the physical location and specs of this router? how is it protected? Should be concerned that I am sharing the same IP address with the previous owner? Is building a modem into apartment walls legal?

    thanks

    Steven
     
  2. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    Your apartment complex likely leases a single fast connection and then uses a switches to split it up into all of the apartments. The ISP generally installs this for the complex. Normally you can’t see any other device on the network except for stuff in your apartment. This is fairly standard in many areas, I wouldnt worry too much.
     
  3. rive22

    rive22 [H]ardness Supreme

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    That's strange considering sometimes the modem needs a power reset
     
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  4. BlueLineSwinger

    BlueLineSwinger Gawd

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    As stated in the post prior to yours, there's probably not a modem in the mix at all, and instead each apt. gets its internet connectivity from a distribution switch somewhere. That switch is then connected to the ISP via a router or maybe to a central point in the complex that then goes to the ISP.
     
  5. Farva

    Farva Shens!

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    I would just throw a firewall on your end and run a VPN, just to make extra sure no one is looking at your traffic.
     
  6. Grentz

    Grentz [H]ard as it Gets

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    Your router is keeping you just as secure as if you plugged it into a modem putting you on the open web. IE should not be a problem at all.
     
  7. zerochilly

    zerochilly n00b

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    i personally would not like this at all. i want to know where all the wires go, and that i own all the equipment. who knows, the whole place could be wired together and the owner has a comcast modem in the basement or broom closet where everything is wired into :D

    if it were me, i'd call whatever ISP is in the area and have my own dedicated line installed...
     
  8. Haven

    Haven I Only Post Important Stuff

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    In an apartment, it may not be possible to get service from someone else. It may be cost prohibitive as well to have it happen.

    Besides, it really isn't that different than having a cable modem or not having a cable modem. You put your firewall behind the "modem" anyways. So you are protecting your internal network. If you are really that paranoid, then you can get a VPN and set your firewall to automatically connect to the VPN endpoint. Though your traffic out of the VPN endpoint is going to be in the clear anyways. At some point you give up control of your connection and hand it off to the network.

    As always you do what you can to secure your internal network.
     
  9. triarii3

    triarii3 Gawd

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    got it. thanks for all the reply guys!
     
  10. SamirD

    SamirD 2[H]4U

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    We had this in one of our previous apartments--just treat it as the same as the ethernet coming out from the cable/dsl/carrier modem and plug in your router like usual. :)
     
  11. tangoseal

    tangoseal [H]ardness Supreme

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    You can dowload a free lan scan software and see if detects any other machines in other apartments other than your own. If it does then you have an improper setup by the apartment authority and it needs to be addressed by them.
     
  12. SamirD

    SamirD 2[H]4U

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    Ours was like that, hehe. I could see network shares of people that plugged directly in vs using a router. :eek: