Anyone seen this? Fluid XP+ non conductive

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http://www.integrity-pc.com/fluidxp.cfm kinda spendy.

http://www.avault.com/hardware/getreview.asp?review=intxtreme&page=16 pics of it on the video card booting and running.

Also on the previous page they state that it's 92% as efficent as normal water. I'm doubting you can add water wetter or something as it's a totaly different chemical makeup.

The big thing i like is that it isn't conductive. I've been looking into doing some water cooling and what not, of course i'm worried about leaks. It would be on my main system that would be on all the time, i guess i'm probably just a bit paranoid though hehe.

Kinda interesting if nothing else.
 
Where are you getting $2548.80?

FLUID XP+ NON CONDUCTIVE SUPER COOLANT 32 OUNCES for $49.99.

How much do you need for a WC system?
 
Distillied/de-ionized water are not conductive either... and far cheaper. Water itself doesn't conduct, its electrolytes that get disolved in it that conduct through it.
 
I dunno about de-ionized water, but I've seen distilled water short a motherboard out.
 
Well, in theory distilled water won't be conductive. However, if it interacts with the CO2 in the air, then a bit of carbonic acid forms creating an electrolyte that can short the mobo. So, if there's no air in your system (or if you choose to work in a vacuum or helium environment) you'll be fine. Oh, if you choose to work in vacuum, just be careful of water boiling at ~25C (at least I think its pretty close to this temperature).
 
Originally posted by NotSoSimple
Where are you getting $2548.80?

FLUID XP+ NON CONDUCTIVE SUPER COOLANT 32 OUNCES for $49.99.

How much do you need for a WC system?
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Top of second page.
"Integrity PC Xtreme Game Machine
Company: Integrity PC
Price: $2548.80 + $65 S&H
Warranty: One Year Parts & Service"

At $49.99 for 32 oz. thats $199.96 a gallon.




And do not, I repeat, do not use de-ionized water.
It will literally rip apart every metal object in the loop.
Water hates being de-ionized and will tear apart whatever is handed to get it's extra electrons back.
 
thats some pricey water
LOL!!!!!
j/k
would be nice stuff to get ones hands on but still a bit steap for me
 
The 3M non-conductive fluid is pretty cool... used to be $300ish per gallon. Submerge your entire system in it....RUNNING.
 
Originally posted by uwackme
The 3M non-conductive fluid is pretty cool... used to be $300ish per gallon. Submerge your entire system in it....RUNNING.
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florinert (sp)...neat stuff...
 
My guess is that stuff you found was used flourinert.

I think one model of Cray used that stuff as part of it's cooling system. Crays tend to have some outright freakish cooling in them.
 
Originally posted by mustang_steve
My guess is that stuff you found was used flourinert.

I think one model of Cray used that stuff as part of it's cooling system. Crays tend to have some outright freakish cooling in them.
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Yeah that stuff is basically fluorinert.
I got a quote for that stuff about a week ago...£30 a litre, minimum purchase 6 litres. That put a halt to my plans.
 
No it's supposed to be something different than the flouri...what ever stuff. Kinda interesting though how he put it on the VC with the UV dye if nothing else =b
 
well if it was florinert.....youd have to remember he couldnt run it in his regular WC system....if memory serves right florinert is alot different than water and can actually pass thru our "water prrof" equipment such as pumps and hose connections.
 
i have done a fair bit of research into this. There are different formulations of the stuff. Remember the stuff in the movie Abyss? That they breathe and dunk the rat in? Well thats a type of fluorinert. And the rat bit...well they did that for real...

the pf5060 formulation flows and conducts heat like water, will work with standard equipment and is 100% non conductive and intert. Its perfect for what we would want to do...but its expensive.
 
Originally posted by Syphon Filter
i have done a fair bit of research into this. There are different formulations of the stuff. Remember the stuff in the movie Abyss? That they breathe and dunk the rat in? Well thats a type of fluorinert. And the rat bit...well they did that for real...

the pf5060 formulation flows and conducts heat like water, will work with standard equipment and is 100% non conductive and intert. Its perfect for what we would want to do...but its expensive.
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for some reason I dont think they dunked a real rat tho man...if they did PETA would be all over them since there would be no physical way any animal could breathe the stuff and live...

but if it was possible to get the stuff cheaply man id have gallons of the shit in my work room :)
 
Originally posted by Visable-assassin
for some reason I dont think they dunked a real rat tho man...if they did PETA would be all over them since there would be no physical way any animal could breathe the stuff and live...

but if it was possible to get the stuff cheaply man id have gallons of the shit in my work room :)
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Fluorinert is a liquid, and you can breathe in it.

Peta? riiiiiight.......
 
Originally posted by angrybusdriver
Fluorinert is a liquid, and you can breathe in it.

Peta? riiiiiight.......
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id love to see a human breathe in florinert and LIVE....
 
Originally posted by Visable-assassin
id love to see a human breathe in florinert and LIVE....
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You can't breath under water because the oxygen content is too low for your lungs to efficiently absorb it.
There are however liquids that can contain high enough concetrations of oxygen for your lungs to work.
I don't know of any human tests, or whether any version of flourinert works, but they have had rats fully submerged for days and where just fine when taken out.
 
I beieve I read about that stuff in an issue of Discover magazine many years ago. If my memory serves me the mice they tested that stuff on had no problem breathing whatsoever, but when they pulled them out they couldn't get all the fluid out of them and they got pnumonia or some kind of shit happend, memory hazy, too many drugs. PETA my booty, they test everything on mice, I don't think they'd make an exception on drowning them.
 
I am not lying...

for the original shooting of the movie they actually did dunk that rat in the fluorinert. The reason it is possible to breathe this is stuff is that is has roughly the same affinity to oxygen as the atmosphere...meaning that it can release oxygen to haemoglobin and carry away CO2 almost as effectively as air...trust me on this...

but when they pulled them out they couldn't get all the fluid out of them and they got pnumonia or some kind of shit happend, memory hazy, too many drugs. PETA my booty, they test everything on mice, I don't think they'd make an exception on drowning them.
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That sounds about right...the initial dunking as it were would probably invoke some kinda of choking/coughing...this would cause some damage to the insides of the lungs...while breathing the fluid, assuming it is somewhat sterile the rat would be fine...but upon draining the fluid out and resuming the breathing of air i think the rat would be vulnerable to infection due to the damaged internal surface of its lungs...also i think it would be possible to drain the liquid but it would take a while and involve more coughing...think about when you choke on a slurp of coffee or whatever...that will only be a small amount of liquid...and it hurts a fair bit...but trying to cough up a litre+ of liquid would be orders of magnitude more uncomfortable.
 
Originally posted by angrybusdriver
That's great. It's entirely possible. Go buy some Fluorinert and try.
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They made this stuff to act like the stuff a baby breathes in the womb. They use it/tested it on premature newborns so their lungs would develope more.
 
Originally posted by neisius
They made this stuff to act like the stuff a baby breathes in the womb. They use it/tested it on premature newborns so their lungs would develope more.
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Yup...so that they could survive until their lungs are ready to survive the switch to air...
 
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