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Any alternative to mouse/etc drivers?

Nazo

Nazo

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I just traded my MX510 for a MX518. With the MX510, the up and down digital buttons just send the same signal that rolling the wheel up or down sends so I didn't even need drivers for them to work. I must admit that the main reason I used them in the first place was when I needed precision since I had accidentally lost the peice that makes the wheel click rather than roll smoothly, but I kind of got used to using them anyway. The problem is, drivers for keyboards, mice, and other such hardware tend to be bloated messy things running some resident program all of the time just to add the extra functionality. I can't help but wonder, not just for my sake, but for many others as well, isn't there some alternative? Maybe drivers that add the full functionality (minus reprogrammable buttons I'm sure) that a mouse or keyboard is supposed to have? Personally I'd rather loose the functionality rather than run their bloatware, but I really would rather be able to use the full functionality if I could, and I think I'm not the only one...

If there is such a thing, is there any way to change the DPI through it? Apparently one feature of the MX518 over the MX510 is the ability to change the DPI to use a higher one for games (of course, it seems already like it's using a higher DPI right off the bat as it's definitely running more smoothly just on the desktop even...)
 
I've got the MX518 and I'm using Vista's default driver. It lets me use all the buttons and increase/decrease the DPI.

I can't reprogram the buttons, but I never would anyway.
 
Ok, but that doesn't really help very much for us non-Vista users...

EDIT: Well, I do realize one mistake. I thought those +/- buttons were still the digital wheel up/down buttons, but I see now they are the DPI changers. They do appear to work without drivers. Guess that means they are hardware switches. I don't know about the Vista mouse driver, but the XP driver is pretty generic and doesn't exactly go out of its way to do anything more than the most standard of things. An example of less standard things would be the application switch for example. Not exactly super vital, but it would still be nice to have IMO...
 
Yeah, I was pretty sure it worked in XP too.

I can't find any custom drivers at all. Honestly though, the Logitech drivers aren't bad. I just hate having extra icons in the notification area.
 
Ok, what about this instead? Really I can live without the application switch. I'd assumed it just wasn't working with certain things like what I'd assumed were digital wheel up/down buttons when they seemed to not do what they were supposed to (or so I thought of course -- I'm not sure why it took me so long to figure out what was going on, lol.) One annoyance though is the fact that the mouse appears to default to a lower DPI mode when I start Windows (it seems to not be it "forgetting" so much as that it just gets reset or something because I don't shut off my PC more often than I need to due to the PSU issue I'm having.) I don't really like switching back and forth more than is absolutely necessary, so prefer to adjust sensitivities in various things to work with the 1600 DPI setting (guess I've been playing games too long because I've found that I don't really have to lower sensitivity settings nearly as much as I'd thought I would have to even.) I'd really rather it just started up in 1600 DPI mode to begin with...

Is there any program that can simply set the DPI on a MX518 and then just exit? I wouldn't mind putting something like that in the startup processes. I really hate letting bloatware run all of the time though, and I don't want to have to manually close such a program all of the time either... (I'm still seriously considering Logitech's software though. It's really hard for me to get used to those two buttons adjusting the DPI rate. I'd actually rather it stayed the same all of the time to being adjustable. It's really disorienting to suddenly find myself moving the mouse a fair bit and it just slowly dragging across the screen a little bit... I may have to use that software just to switch those buttons to some other more useful task...)

I don't care about the number of icons btw. I'm using bbLean on a high resolution display with the bar (and therefore icons) size set to about half the normal size. This makes icons a lot less intrusive than they normally are. I really don't like having a bunch of basically unnecessary programs wasting resources though, so I still keep the number of icons fairly low just out of necessity. (For one thing, I have performance issues caused in no small part by nVidia's crappy drivers and my SATA drive. Even without the drivers so the drive runs in IDE emulation mode it's not exactly blazing performance though. The drive is the same model type with better features though versus my old IDE drive, so I know the issue is either the chipset itself or the drivers. From what everyone is saying on pretty much the entire Internet, I would say it's the drivers. Whatever the case may be, the last thing I need is for things to be doing anything that could cause any extra HD access most of all as it can make games kind of skip and such.)
 
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