Another Tesla Autopilot Crash Reported

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  1. nilepez

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    Never? I disagree. At some point, autonomous driving will be very safe. At one time, every step of manufacturing was done by people. Now a good chunk of it is automated. Yes that's a controlled environment, but I suspect that eventually autonomous cars will either talk to each other and/or will communicate with a centralized system that helps guide them.

    I suspect we'll have viable autonomous cars before I die, but I don't know if they'll be here before 2030. My guess is they'll take a huge step forward when most (all) cars are autonomous. What I'm not sure is if they'll be able to drive in all situations. My guess is no and thus we'll still have a steering wheel.
     
  2. nilepez

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    My guess is it's for them to collect data to use for their ultimate goal: an autonomous vehicle.
    The problem is that some people are treating their Tesla like it's an autonomous vehicle, and it's not.
     
  3. nilepez

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    Probably not, but the driver is always supposed to be paying attention. AFAICT, autopilot is there for brief times where you're distracted or perhaps to stretch. Obviously it's better than that (which is why people abuse it), but I really think the reason it's beta is because they're collecting data and updating the s/w with the goal of creating a fully autonomous vehicle.
     
  4. collegeboy69us

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    Not a stock holder of anything. Just trying to point out that the average human driver is about as dumb as a brick. And while it's new and uncomfortable, a machine that can do just as (or better) of a job seems to worry people. I'd still much rather trust a system with a prove track record, instead of trusting the 16 year old spaz who's texting and taking selfies while they fly down the highway.

    This whole debale is no different than the people who quite literally drove their car into a lake "because GPS told them to". Or the 90 year old granny who rams her car into a shopping center because she's too senile to know which is the brake and which is the gas. Autopilot isn't a full on substitute, it's a driver aid. And with or without the aid, stupid people will make stupid choices and get results like this. I hate the fact that we are so quick to judge and punish everyone beacuse of a handfull dumb asses who doesn't understand the rules.
     
  5. krotch

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    Nah, I understand that they're working towards a fully autonomous vehicle, but I just can't see it being better than a human currently. Yes, I do see it helping to aid a human and reduce accidents. Much like ABS, auto-braking, lane assist, etc.

    Sadly there is no proven track record, except for on perfect days on specific types of roads. I have no problem with autonomous vehicles and I would love it if they were already around. In the past 2 weeks I've driven 3-4 hours (one way) to France to visit family and then trek back the same day or the next day. I'd love to not have to drive that. I hate boring straight highway driving.

    Sadly, there are people out there that will use Autopilot as a full on substitute. No autonomous vehicle today is capable of that. 5 years from now, I can see them being able too, but I doubt they'll be on the road due to regulations. Just look at the sheer backlash going on with these Tesla cars now.
     
  6. collegeboy69us

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    I feel you on the boring drive -- I used to drive from Texas to North Dakota a few times for each stint of my MWD Specialist job... talk about boring driving, 11 hours straight driving day 1, and then another 6 or 7 hours day two. All so I can go live on some oil rig in the middle of BFE.
     
  7. Orddie

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    or.. you can better understand how the autopilot feature works with your car and know that lines are needed for it to understand where to drive?
     
  8. krotch

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    I don't think I could use the Autopilot feature on Teslas. For me, there are times I get sleepy on the road and I catch myself dozing off for a sec. I tend to drive close to the right-side and the lines have that rumble stuff in it. If I hit them from being drowsy, I know to get the hell off the road and take a nap. If I had autopilot going, I'd never get that jolt and would probably end up falling fully asleep and the car drives me into a trailer or off the road.

    I'm fine in the city, cause shifting, clutching, etc keep me awake.
     
  9. rezerekted

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    They are now saying autonomous features are to help you drive safer in case you fall asleep while driving, etc. Gee, that is not how they were pandering it to us in the beginning, they lead people to believe we would have self driving cars so you are just victim blaming.
     
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  11. Ocellaris

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    http://jalopnik.com/musk-autopilot-was-off-in-pa-tesla-model-x-crash-acco-1783695454

    Looks like the driver was either sleeping or getting a BJ
     
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