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Another Day, Another Cyber Attack

CommanderFrank

CommanderFrank

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Usually cyber attacks are targeted at corporations and ultimately at the individual accounts stored within that organization. This attack is a bit different seeing how the target was the International Monetary Fund and leaked data could literally bring down nations.

Although it is unclear what exactly the hackers were after, the IMF possesses data that would be "political dynamite in many countries," The New York Times reports.
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This is the new war, and governments and corporations need to get their shit together.
 
What i'm really interested in is how this will affect Chrome OS. Private data that would normally be on individual PC's being stored in a central location would have a rather big target painted on it.

On that note. Does Yahoo, Gmail and hotmail get hack attempts?
 
What happened to the days when hackers hacked into place for the sole reason of "because I can". Changing major companies websites to say something like BEWBS on the front page for a few minutes.
 
I hope these criminals are all thrown in prison soon.
 
WorldExclusive said:
You mean, Cyber Terrorism. Yes, these people are digital terrorist.
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Let's not weaken the term "terrorist" quite yet please? It still can mean someone threatening a culture but we don't call bank robbers, serial rapists/killers, gang members, drug dealers, smugglers, or human traffickers terrorists.. let's stop calling hackers terrorists. Well.. until a hacker wrecks a train, murders someone via bluetooth pacemaker (those are still a bad idea), or starts wrecking entire countries, then we can toss around the word "terrorist". Until then, I prefer the term vagrant or burglar... and even then it would only apply to some of the crowd. Aside from that, many of these targeted attacks are likely done by foreign powers. Even in that case, it's still not terrorism as much as spying and espionage.
 
satsunada said:
Let's not weaken the term "terrorist" quite yet please? It still can mean someone threatening a culture but we don't call bank robbers, serial rapists/killers, gang members, drug dealers, smugglers, or human traffickers terrorists.. let's stop calling hackers terrorists. Well.. until a hacker wrecks a train, murders someone via bluetooth pacemaker (those are still a bad idea), or starts wrecking entire countries, then we can toss around the word "terrorist". Until then, I prefer the term vagrant or burglar... and even then it would only apply to some of the crowd. Aside from that, many of these targeted attacks are likely done by foreign powers. Even in that case, it's still not terrorism as much as spying and espionage.
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Terrorist and Burglars go to prison all the same. I would stop a burglar from robbing people before someone gets hurt, and I'll stop hackers from taking people's personal info, costing business billions and affecting their reputation before someone decide to take it to another level. We shouldn't wait until the burglar murders or a hacker causes an accident before labeling them as a serious threat. White collar crime is looked at different because it's not direct physical contact, but those guys are causing terror around the web. Elevate the threat to cyberterrorism and their attitude will change, especially if a foreign government is behind this. These are repeated attacks on large corporations, a threat to the world economy. If they hacked your bank account, how would you feel about them then?

Cyberterrorism can be labeled as large scale disruption and also small scale computer crimes. PS3 network disruption was large scale.
Some people choose not to define it as the latter, but crime is crime, and prison is the answer.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Terrorist and Burglars go to prison all the same. I would stop a burglar from robbing people before someone gets hurt, and I'll stop hackers from taking people's personal info, costing business billions and affecting their reputation before someone decide to take it to another level. We shouldn't wait until the burglar murders or a hacker causes an accident before labeling them as a serious threat. White collar crime is looked at different because it's not direct physical contact, but those guys are causing terror around the web. Elevate the threat to cyberterrorism and their attitude will change, especially if a foreign government is behind this. These are repeated attacks on large corporations, a threat to the world economy. If they hacked your bank account, how would you feel about them then?

Cyberterrorism can be labeled as large scale disruption and also small scale computer crimes. PS3 network disruption was large scale.
Some people choose not to define it as the latter, but crime is crime, and prison is the answer.
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You have a very strange reasoning. Firstly, terrorists don't usually go to jail.. they get the death penalty or worse. Domestic terrorists and those who support them lose all citizenship rights on top of that. There is absolutely nothing similar between what a terrorist does and what a hacker does. Not a thing. If hacking is classified as terrorism, then that's a terrible mistake and you really need to reevaluate your sense of terror and justice. You also can't just punish people for future crimes because you think it might head that way. Not every pickpocket is headed for life as a hit man. To treat them all the same is ridiculous. If they hacked my bank account, I'd call them thieves but I'm not scared of them. There is no fear involved in this. None. The fact remains that, just like regular life, if you avoid the places you shouldn't go odds are you won't get robbed. You're trying to treat unarmed faceless pick pockets as though they were Osama Bin Laden and that's just dumb. Reclassifying it isn't going to help either. They already know it's illegal. Making it a more horrible punishment is wrong as well. White collar crime is a totally different topic again and not relevant to this discussion. I'm just saying that you weaken the word terrorist by using it to describe everything.

Classifying the PSN crash as cyberterrorism is like classifying a graffiti artist as serial arsonist. It's just blown stupidly out of proportion. It's crime.. not terrorism. Stop going all North Korean on us. :rolleyes:
 
refraxion said:
I think you mean Anarchy.
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One cannot disband the police without also disbanding the criminals as the police are nothing more than socially acceptable criminals. One coin, two sides. They both need to give up their occupations voluntarily at the same time. If today there were complete abolition of laws my behavior wouldn't change in any way accept to be prepared for the wild reactions of other people. Coincidentally I am not interested in breaking any laws. My personal desires just so happen to coincide with what the law wants of me. If the entire population would react in a similar fashion then "anarchy" would occur naturally. Until then I think it's a good idea to treat our fellow man as we ourselves would like to be treated (this is not a Christian diatribe here no matter how worthy the things the Christ said are) and work in the ways that we can to help angered people relax, think more about what they have done and do instead of what other people have done and do.
 
The IMF as a whole poses a greater threat to long-term global stability than any terrorist group. Ask anyone with a background in economics or politics if the IMF is overall good or evil and tell me what your results are.

It is not comforting at all to learn how much power and influence the IMF exerts on the global stage. Its constituent members are the kind of laissez-faire economists to the point that Alan Greenspan might say they were too much into deregulation. Their policies of bringing poorer nations into economic stability by increasing individual taxes while reducing corporate burdens have collapsed several economies, contrary to their stated goal of increasing economic stability.

Seriously, once these guys have your economy, they want nothing more than the banks to be paid off and companies to be happy, regardless of social programs like health care and education. None of them are elected, they have no oversight, and their net effect has been to induce economic and social disasters in almost every country they've touched.

So yeah, anything anyone can do to make people take notice of what's happening there is more than appropriate in my book. There are far, far too many acronyms that no one has heard of that exert incredible political and economic pressures to our detriment that need to be made public.
 
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