Another Apple Ad Banned

MrGuvernment said:
so you dont mind false advertising and think companies should be able to lie to sell a product :rolleyes:, not just a small fib, but blatent straight out lying.
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I have a really difficult time believing you can't differentiate between a claim and a depiction. Do you not know the difference?

 
JimmiG said:
"Really fast".. Isn't the iPhone known to be really slow due to the sluggish ARM processor they used in combination with a poorly optimized OS? Apple's marketing team needs a reality check..both the one responsible for this and the one that does the stupid I'm a Mac ads.
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Shoot, even that guy that in a 3G network on an iPhone OUTSIDE THE APPLE STORE did a comparison video that showed how ridiculous the "fast" iPhone commercials were. Does anyone know what happened to that lawsuit?

Exavior said:
I'm getting tired of all the commericals on tv that make claims that they can't live up to.
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QFT.
It'd be one thing if Apple did an ad "Look at Expose`, look at our dock, etc" and focused on the features that Windows doesn't have.

But when they manipulate their ads and directly make untrue comparison, just ticks me off. Kudos to UK.

hl3395 said:
The real question is, CAN the iPhone work that fast? I mean if you had the fastest 3G connection on Earth, can you get the pages to load like that? If you can, then it's just typical advertizing. If not, then it's deceptive.
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I don't think ANY 3G phone can load pages that fast. At least none I've seen on the market right now.
Shoot, I've got the new Blackberry Bold, crazy fast phone that even blows the Storm out of the water, and it's still slow as can be on a 3G network. Or at least not equivalent to a regular old internet connection.

bonsai said:
Any examples? I'm curious to what their standard is for "misleading".
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Uh... Flat out falsifying web pages loading on the iPhone? Or how everything pops up instantly. Anyone that's even used the iPhone for 2 minutes knows that's a bunch of BS, hence the class action lawsuit awhile back.
 
phide said:
I have a really difficult time believing you can't differentiate between a claim and a depiction. Do you not know the difference?

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I'd agree if they said "It's fast". But the speed they demonstrate isn't viable in any real-world scenarios. They flat out manipulated it.
 
I would say there would be lot of upset customers if this was the only iPhone commercial they ever saw, so yes it is a misleading commercial.

I don't think small print is a good solution either. The text is too small, it's there for just a few seconds (sometimes the disclosure is a whole paragraph!), and the digital/analog picture conversion usually has so many artifacts you wouldn't be able to read it any way.
 
Ockie said:
In the US we let our people use their own minds to think and detirmine if it's good enough for them.
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That's great for the minority who are actually capable of using their own mind and think for themselves..

However the majority of the population of any country seems to consist of mindless drones that believe everything they see and hear. That's why "watchdogs" can be good sometimes.

Also, as stated in the article, the ad was actually banned because "people" (normal citizens I assume) complained to the Advertising Standards Authority. So people in the UK do think for themselves, and unlike people in the US, there's someone there to listen to their complaints and do something about it (the ASA).
 
mryerse said:
I'm going to start my own country. Who's with me?
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It'd just get taken over or something...

Of the countries I'd love to move to, none of them have the real backbone to make it enjoyable for me (shopping centers to buy stuff at, decent internet speeds, entertainment, etc).
Any country that has plenty of that always has a downside to it.
 
phide said:
I have a really difficult time believing you can't differentiate between a claim and a depiction. Do you not know the difference?

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unfortunatly, alot of people dont in this world, i do, and so do many on [H] but we are spec in the world of people who know anything about things and are smart shoppers.

marketing prays on the weak, why do you think nigerian scam emails are still sent and spam is so high - cause if it didnt work, they would of stopped.

Bottom line is, companies should NOT be allowed to lie and falsly represent their products, period. a lie is a lie.
 
TechieSooner said:
It'd just get taken over or something...

Of the countries I'd love to move to, none of them have the real backbone to make it enjoyable for me (shopping centers to buy stuff at, decent internet speeds, entertainment, etc).
Any country that has plenty of that always has a downside to it.
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Costa rica :)

5 years and loving it so far!
 
Advertising Standards did a good job preventing that ad from being aired.
I'm glad they stop that crap being shown publicly.
 
not sure what all the fuss is about. i live in the uk purchased my fuirst ever apple product in the form of the 3g iphone, yes its not that fast but it still does all that in reasonable time.


anyways id like apple to be bitch slapped so they are forced to open up the iphone some what. preety damn sure there are few peeps out there who could make great apps for without apples ♥♥♥♥ eyed restrictions
 
Surely whether or not something works "fast" is relative and subjective, and in this case it will depend on factors such as the network speed. I think that's the arguement against it.
 
I suppose if you were wifing on a fios network it would be that fast, but again, that kinda makes it deceptive marketing.
 
I watched this on the TV and thort thats quick, just out of interest as I will not be using one and then saw that the add had been shut down. If you are not that interested in mobile phones like me you would not know its been made to look fast, It looks like its in real time and I thort thats what it was.

Our adds are still full of It... just like many around the world some get cut others get through.
 
so can we get acura's ads banned since i cant actually drive my car through a giant glass bottle? lol
 
You COULD drive it through a giant glass bottle if you had a giant glass bottle. ;)
 
TechieSooner said:
It'd just get taken over or something...

Of the countries I'd love to move to, none of them have the real backbone to make it enjoyable for me (shopping centers to buy stuff at, decent internet speeds, entertainment, etc).
Any country that has plenty of that always has a downside to it.
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You got that right with all the greedy scum on this planet it wouldn't take to long before they came to your country. It would have to be guarded by superman or the justice league lol. It would be grand tho, you could keep all the idiots out of your country and keep the genepool undercontrol.

For me I would probably prefer my own planet with justice league guarding it, that way it would not be so messed up like our current one. And last I checked we haven't inhabited any other planets so it would be a fresh start minus all the BS.

A Man can dream can he not.

Can you say Earth 2!

I enjoyed that show back in the day.
 
Isn't this the same as the one that was posted here several weeks back?

All I remember is a "really fast" commercial is banned. This looks like it's the same one.

Oh well, either way, I agree :p
 
There is a textual warning at the end of the ad that says something to the effect of:

"Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage."

Apple has done NOTHING different than 99% of other companies out there.
 
Arcygenical said:
There is a textual warning at the end of the ad that says something to the effect of:

"Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage."

Apple has done NOTHING different than 99% of other companies out there.
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2 wrong don't make 1 right...

Deceptive ads that gets banned dosn't bother me...wanna sell your product, then do it on the merrits, not lies/deception.
 
Arcygenical said:
There is a textual warning at the end of the ad that says something to the effect of:

"Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage."

Apple has done NOTHING different than 99% of other companies out there.
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The network coverage has nothing to do with how fast the phone responds. Look at how fast their applications load compared to how fast they load in real life. I'm sorry but this ad is blatant false advertising. There are no ands ifs or buts about it. I know every product is slightly better in ads than they are in real life but this ad goes above and beyond by an extreme margin.


Look on the bright side, at least apple didn't steal this ad like they have all of their others.
 
Atech said:
2 wrong don't make 1 right...

Deceptive ads that gets banned dosn't bother me...wanna sell your product, then do it on the merrits, not lies/deception.
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But everybody knows that this ad was specifically targeted to leech from apple's successful iPhone earnings. Which I think is just as scummy as a misleading ad.
 
Arcygenical said:
But everybody knows that this ad was specifically targeted to leech from apple's successful iPhone earnings. Which I think is just as scummy as a misleading ad.
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I can read every single word, but I cannot figure out what you mean?
 
Atech said:
It's common in the EU to ban bad/misleading ads, are the US just open to BS-ads no matter what? :eek:
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it'd never happen in the usa, cas 'it would hurt business' and with all the politicians pockets lined with gold from such corporations, misleading ads would never get banned. kudos UK, thinking about the people rather than the fatcats..
 
Good job bringing your anti american rant to another topic. Now go over to the next camera watching you and tell the government you'll suck them dry.
 
Zellio2009 said:
Good job bringing your anti american rant to another topic. Now go over to the next camera watching you and tell the government you'll suck them dry.
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First of all, what the hell got your panties in a wad? And second, he's right. The moment our government stepped in and stopped the ads some special interest group would open up the water works and controversy would ensue.
 
Arcygenical said:
There is a textual warning at the end of the ad that says something to the effect of:

"Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage."

Apple has done NOTHING different than 99% of other companies out there.
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the iphone physically CANNOT render web pages as fast as seen there, regardless of internet speed.


right
out
lie
 
Im happy for the brits. I hate watching the damn iphone comercials, then and now, and saying. If it went 1/4 that speed ( even just switching apps ) and coudl do a full run without crashing or freezing that would rock. I had a sore taste for apple but then I tried some of their products and all I got was a 400 dollar paper weight and now a 200 dollar replacement that doesnt stay in 3g and is only good for viewing pictures on.
 
the iphone physically CANNOT render web pages as fast as seen there, regardless of internet speed.

right
out
lie



No edit button, but this is the most true thing Ive ever read. Well, Ive read many true things about misleading ads and apple, but this is to the point
 
yea they really should do that in the US so i can stop asking my self that is probably fake eh? heh

 
You know im all for apple getting ragged on and what not. They need to get there heads our of there asses and take of that ridiculous apple tax if they really want to be better than Microsoft to the whole world.

I myself have macs, pcs and servers so I have quite a few of the major OS's out there (mac, windows, linux).

Anyways, I think the UK was wrong in this sense. Apple was simple advertising how fast there phone could be in prime conditions. In a good 3G network area with good speeds, and probably a new phone without any clutter on it. So what.

What has this world come to, to not be able to realize that nothing is 100% correct. If you had a brand new iPhone 3G and were in a 3G hot spot you could probably get those types of results.

Apple was simple advertising that there phone could do this in the proper environment. None the less they said "Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage." That right there can clarify a lot.

In fact I know AT&T has maps of 3G coverage at their stores where you can get the phone. They want to let you know where those hot spots are and what not.

This world in general is starting to sicken me that we have to appoint idiots to inform idiots how idiotic they are...
 
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Anyways, It's just like how they advertise battery life on laptops, Most companies over exaggerate them because they just let it sit and run for the time of the battery putting no load on it and giving you a 4 hours time frame even though you will never get close to it when using it.

Apple on the other hand doing normal stuff, browsing the web, listening to music etc... you can get pretty darn close to the advertised mark. (i think the old MBP before the new release was marked at 4 hours or close to it.) I can get that normally, even on a bad day. Movies ill get around 2.5-3 just text (programming) i can get close to 6.
 
Arcygenical said:
There is a textual warning at the end of the ad that says something to the effect of:

"Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage."

Apple has done NOTHING different than 99% of other companies out there.
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Yea, except your argument fails because no network or location out there can perform that fast, for starters.
Secondly, as someone else has pointed out, the apps located on the device itself just flat out don't load that fast in real life. It's either A) cached or B) manipulated video. Take your pick, but it's not real-world.


Blown 89 said:
The moment our government stepped in and stopped the ads some special interest group would open up the water works and controversy would ensue.
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tdktank59 said:
You know im all for apple getting ragged on and what not. They need to get there heads our of there asses and take of that ridiculous apple tax if they really want to be better than Microsoft to the whole world.

I myself have macs, pcs and servers so I have quite a few of the major OS's out there (mac, windows, linux).

Anyways, I think the UK was wrong in this sense. Apple was simple advertising how fast there phone could be in prime conditions. In a good 3G network area with good speeds, and probably a new phone without any clutter on it. So what.

What has this world come to, to not be able to realize that nothing is 100% correct. If you had a brand new iPhone 3G and were in a 3G hot spot you could probably get those types of results.

Apple was simple advertising that there phone could do this in the proper environment. None the less they said "Actual phone speeds may vary with quality of network coverage." That right there can clarify a lot.

In fact I know AT&T has maps of 3G coverage at their stores where you can get the phone. They want to let you know where those hot spots are and what not.

This world in general is starting to sicken me that we have to appoint idiots to inform idiots how idiotic they are...
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tdktank59 said:
Cant edit...

Anyways, It's just like how they advertise battery life on laptops, Most companies over exaggerate them because they just let it sit and run for the time of the battery putting no load on it and giving you a 4 hours time frame even though you will never get close to it when using it.

Apple on the other hand doing normal stuff, browsing the web, listening to music etc... you can get pretty darn close to the advertised mark. (i think the old MBP before the new release was marked at 4 hours or close to it.) I can get that normally, even on a bad day. Movies ill get around 2.5-3 just text (programming) i can get close to 6.
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DARN LACK OF AN EDIT BUTTON!!!! Touchpad on notebook my palm accidentally hit submit. But anyways... In continuation:


Blown 89 said:
The moment our government stepped in and stopped the ads some special interest group would open up the water works and controversy would ensue.
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This is true. Heck it wasn't even 100 years ago, and Americans were ruthless consumers. It made America great. You pissed off the consumers, you went out of business. You lied to customers, you went out of business.

Welcome to 2008, where pretty much any company can say whatever the heck they want because the "stupidization" of the Americans, and in the grand picture has no outcome on their products. If Apple and this technology were around 100 years ago and folks bought into the crazy fast new device they saw, they'd lose business so fast they'd be left spinning. I just don't see that today.

tdktank59 said:
Anyways, It's just like how they advertise battery life on laptops, Most companies over exaggerate them because they just let it sit and run for the time of the battery putting no load on it and giving you a 4 hours time frame even though you will never get close to it when using it.
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That's a standard though, which actually does make sense. Depending on the load, this could vary DRASTICALLY. The only thing uniform and the same for everyone is the base-load while it's running.

Apple breaks standards. They manipulate their ads to make their device look a TON better than it actually is, in order to drum up interest and sales. If your device doesn't look that fast in a video demonstration: DON'T SHOW THAT PART. Simple as that. Show the good qualities, but don't outright lie to make the bad qualities look good as well.

Apple even broke standards on the Air. Everyone else measures their notebooks overall thickness by the thickest point. Apple measures it by the thinnest and calls it a groundbreaking, "worlds thinnest" notebook :rolleyes: YEARS ago we had notebooks a little bit thinner than the Air's thickest point.

My point is Apple has a track record. It's my opinion people will eventually get pissed off with all the lies their marketing machine comes up with.
 
Don't forget Apple's WiFi mess...our poor support have had to deal with a lot of that...and sorry, but the common mac-user is impossible to support...clueless, and the OS gives you no relevant error-codes..add the ad lying to it, and I have a big distate for MacCrap products.
 
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