Anandtech tri-sli preview

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http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3183

NVIDIA always does this. We got Quad SLI with the 7950 GX2, only to be replaced shortly thereafter by G80, and now we're getting 3-way SLI with the 8800 GTX/Ultra, which we all know is on the way to being replaced by G92. Investing in a 3-way SLI setup today would be a terrible idea, you're buying into old technology and you're buying it after it's already been made obsolete by a new GPU. It's only a matter of time before G92 makes its way up the food chain, and three of those bad boys with even more shader power should give us a much cooler running, and faster, 3-way SLI setup than what we've tested here today.

The setup works, we didn't run into any software issues, and we can't deny that there are some definite performance improvements in certain games. The problem is that 3-way SLI just doesn't scale well enough, in nearly enough titles to justify the price.

We'd love to say that 3-way SLI is exactly what you need to play Crysis, because at least that way there'd be a configuration in existence that would run that game well, but we just can't. The game currently doesn't scale well at all from two to three cards.

And that's the fundamental problem with 3-way SLI, it's a better effort than Quad SLI was, but it's doomed from the start: it's built on old technology. We'd much rather have a couple of faster G92 based GPUs than SLI-ing three 1.5 year old GPUs together.

Then there's the bigger issue of SLI and CrossFire technologies in general, scaling is a little too dependent on software. You're increasing the execution resources of a standard 2-card SLI setup by 50%, but the performance impact is no where near that. Whereas if you added 50% more SPs to those two 8800 Ultras you'd see a much more tangible outcome. It's an extreme version of the way Intel makes quad-core CPUs, but instead of sticking two die on a single package, you have two die spread over two cards - that's hardly efficient. GPU architectures have changed dramatically over the past few years, yet we're still left with the same old multi-GPU technology. It's time for a change.

Couldn't agree more! :cool:
 
Hehe, told you so. Just ain't worth the investment. Save your pennies. NVIDIA is just trying to move old GPU inventory that is no longer attractive because the new GTs are looking so good.

That said, the framebuffer is what is holding the new 8800 GT back and we will be having an eval of a new 8800 card from Palit with 1GB framebuffer.

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PLT-88GT1G#

Now back on topic that Tri-SLI sucks....
 
Totally agree with everything said ^^^. I guess Kyle will now be handing out "you can kiss my butt, I was right!" tickets to all those who thought tri-SLI was a good idea. :D
 
I think a 2 card SLI solution has more of a use then tri-sli does at this moment, down the road things might change, but like me if you want the best , you have to pay for it.
 
Wonder what the exhaust is like with a tri-sli setup? I can only imagine. I know with my SLi its like opening an oven. :D
 
Why do we have anandtech calling G80 1.5 years old, it came out 13 months and 6 days ago, not 18 months ago.
 
Why do we have anandtech calling G80 1.5 years old, it came out 13 months and 6 days ago, not 18 months ago.
The card's didn't instantaneously appear on the launch date, the technology and research is at least 1.5 years old.

Interesting opinions/previews from both [H] and Anandtech. I've never had a use for SLi and I don't see myself using it at any time in the future. 3-way SLi is just something more that I'm not going to use.
 
Why do we have anandtech calling G80 1.5 years old, it came out 13 months and 6 days ago, not 18 months ago.

If you need to be anal about it, it is most likely well over 18 months old since it was most likely designed well over 2 years ago.

Or, you could just not be anal about it.
 
The card's didn't instantaneously appear on the launch date, the technology and research is at least 1.5 years old.

Interesting opinions/previews from both [H] and Anandtech. I've never had a use for SLi and I don't see myself using it at any time in the future. 3-way SLi is just something more that I'm not going to use.

Never cared for SLI myself, think the real future is in multi GPU cards.
 
Never cared for SLI myself, think the real future is in multi GPU cards.

Exactly. With TriSLI and Quad SLI you need a huge box to run it, and huge power supply to power it, and you'll feel a bit silly after using 3x 8800GT-GTX cards now when the new cards come out just to feel like you need to sell what you have to upgrade and go through that whole cycle again, and most with TriSLI will feel compelled to do so because they're going to be upset that one card might possibly be as good or better than their current TriSli (or even SLI). It's just a money pit (and money trap) IMO, the way the industry needs to go is in multi GPU'ed cards on one PCB with very good coolers.
 
If you need to be anal about it, it is most likely well over 18 months old since it was most likely designed well over 2 years ago.

Or, you could just not be anal about it.

So G92 is already a year old and is now obsolete, seeing as your agreeing with anand about this.

The cards came out on november 12th or round abouts last year, so 13 months is an accurate assessment of how long WE have had the ability to have these cards in our hands, not 18 months.

Their just adding fuel to the fire that somehow G80 is totally obsolete when it clearly isn't.
 
If you need to be anal about it, it is most likely well over 18 months old since it was most likely designed well over 2 years ago.

Or, you could just not be anal about it.

Oh ya, ok, so by your logic, every newly released card is already a year old and not worth buying eh?
 
I went SLI because I was bored, and had a mobo that could support it. It's not a bad option for certain scenarios - like you're short on money and want to bump your performance a bit to bridge to the next gen card (my second 7800gt was only $70 six months ago).

Also, some uber-hardcore gamer might drop two of the highest end cards in for a real high end application.

Either way, tri SLI doesn't apply the former example (beacuse you woudn't buy two) and is probably not a great option for the latter example anyways (because of the lack of relative increase in performance).

Plus, how much are tri-SLI mobos going for these days? Can't imagine it'd be worth the price bump.
 
At the end of the power consumption's page

I was talking to Matthew Witheiler, our first dedicated graphics editor here at AnandTech, I told him how much power the system used under load and while idle. His response? "JESUS". "No", I said, "not even Jesus needs this much power".
 
The power consumption alone makes this setup impractical. Can I sue nVidia if I burn down my house because I overloaded my wiring?
 
The power consumption alone makes this setup impractical. Can I sue nVidia if I burn down my house because I overloaded my wiring?

Well... If a woman can sue McD's over her dumbass self spilling hot coffee on herself, anything is possible! :rolleyes:
 
So G92 is already a year old and is now obsolete, seeing as your agreeing with anand about this.

The cards came out on november 12th or round abouts last year, so 13 months is an accurate assessment of how long WE have had the ability to have these cards in our hands, not 18 months.

Their just adding fuel to the fire that somehow G80 is totally obsolete when it clearly isn't.

No, I am saying who cares, 13 months, 18 months, 24 months. They are talking about the technology, not the release date. Yes, it is older than 13 months.

Does that mean it sucks, is obsolete, etc? No. Just that it is as old as it is.

World: you may begin rotating again.
 
Oh ya, ok, so by your logic, every newly released card is already a year old and not worth buying eh?

Most likely years(who knows how many) old from the moment the company first started to plan the actual card.

Doesn't mean it is not worth buying.

If they perform with the best, they perform with the best, no matter how old.
 
Well... If a woman can sue McD's over her dumbass self spilling hot coffee on herself, anything is possible! :rolleyes:

Sadly, this is a case where the media failed to show what really happened. Not only did McD's deserve to be sued, they deserved to loose a hell of a lot more than they did. Very interesting case, and exactly why we as consumers have the right to sue when a company is negligent towards the safety of it's customers.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm
 
So G92 is already a year old and is now obsolete, seeing as your agreeing with anand about this.

Their just adding fuel to the fire that somehow G80 is totally obsolete when it clearly isn't.
Yeah, I like how many regard a successful product already obsolete simply because a new product slated to replace it in a few months will likely blow it away in performance. I don't consider anything obsolete unless a suitable product is readily available for a similar price that far exceeds it in performance. Tri-SLI will also be an option when the new generation of NVidia cards are released. It's pure speculation, but using three 'G100s' in SLI might permit playing Crysis at 2560x1600 with most IQ options enabled for all we know. Even with the most liberal use of the word 'obsolete,' Tri-SLI might actually prove itself useful with future hardware despite its dubious application in the present.

Having said all that, I will have to agree with those who stated that it's largely a waste of money for most people. It is a luxury item, nothing more. Yes, it will permit better game play in certain games, but the cost is prohibitive. Unless you're swimming in money and the word 'cost' does not exist in your vocabulary, Tri-SLI is not worth the additional cost of a third video card, likely PSU upgrade, extra heat production, reduced expansion options and significantly increased power consumption. This doesn't even take into account that one will probably require a motherboard replacement just to make all of it possible. Although great that the option is available, it's not worth it for 95% of consumers.
 
Sadly, this is a case where the media failed to show what really happened. Not only did McD's deserve to be sued, they deserved to loose a hell of a lot more than they did. Very interesting case, and exactly why we as consumers have the right to sue when a company is negligent towards the safety of it's customers.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

the "'Lectric Library"? No thanks. Hahahaha
 
I thought military technology was 10 years ahead of consumer technology? Also, don't we do backward design from alien technology :confused: :D

If SLI is not much of a benefit then why would Tri SLI be any different? Then again some people think the best bang for the buck means the end of all.
 
the "'Lectric Library"? No thanks. Hahahaha

? hahahaha?

Google it, there are numerous sites on this. Being ignorant on a topic when the information is at your finger tips is silly at best.

The McD's case is a text book example, from the reasons for the suit to the verdict, to how the money was awarded, why when a company is blatantly negligent we have the right, and we need to, sue them. It really is a very interesting case, and you shoudl take the time to learn about it.

The media failed to give the facts of the case, and played it off as a silly pointless lawsuit, when in fact it was nowhere close to that.

Since googling is so hard:

http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants

http://www.justice.org/pressroom/FACTS/frivolous/McdonaldsCoffeecase.aspx
 
The card's didn't instantaneously appear on the launch date, the technology and research is at least 1.5 years old.

Interesting opinions/previews from both [H] and Anandtech. I've never had a use for SLi and I don't see myself using it at any time in the future. 3-way SLi is just something more that I'm not going to use.

No, G80 is over 4 years old, which is when development started, so the 1.5 years old is not right at all.
8800 GTX and 8800 GTS 640 were released in November 11th 2006, if memory doesn't fail me. That's 1 year, 1 month and 8 days old.
 
1. Who cares how old it is. People make typo's and mistakes all the time. Drop it.
2. That woman shouldnt have gotten a penny from McD's. Its coffee, its going to be hot. Dont be a smuck and spill it, then sue over it.

And now to get back on topic. As Ive said before... triple SLI can very much be worth it. Who cares why they are selling the cards, or whats coming out 4 months from now, or more. Its about gaming at a ultra high res, with ultra high levels of AA, and enjoying smoother frames. I wouldnt care a bit to spend $1500 on three cards, to get great frames like this.
 
Sadly, this is a case where the media failed to show what really happened. Not only did McD's deserve to be sued, they deserved to loose a hell of a lot more than they did. Very interesting case, and exactly why we as consumers have the right to sue when a company is negligent towards the safety of it's customers.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

Hell of a lot more? The settlement amount was never released, so how could you even say that?

Also, she spilled the coffee herself. She was both the perpetrator and victim. She could have just as easily burned herself at home doing the same thing - which should have been enough to exonerate McD's all together. This all boiled down to McDs serving coffee at a hotter temperature than some "standard" temperature manufactured by her attorneys. The carafe on my coffee pot at home is as hot as McD's stated there's was - which evidences the absurdity of the claim all together.

This is an awful example of how litigious we are, and how overrun by greed and entitlement we've become.

/rant
 
Coffee was too hot, but you should assume that it is hot. The fact that she "was" to get 3 million for spilling coffee on herself is rediculous.
 
Coffee was too hot, but you should assume that it is hot. The fact that she "was" to get 3 million for spilling coffee on herself is rediculous.

Read it, it is so much more than what you make it out to be.
 
3 million shit the lawyer got that.she had enough left over for a box of bandaids.uh not on subject here:)
 
Originally Posted by himmy View Post
Sadly, this is a case where the media failed to show what really happened. Not only did McD's deserve to be sued, they deserved to loose a hell of a lot more than they did. Very interesting case, and exactly why we as consumers have the right to sue when a company is negligent towards the safety of it's customers.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

I read that entire article and I received a 33 for reading on my ACT so don't question my comprehension level.

Coffee to hot. (point of view)
Spill on self.
Duuurrrrrrrrrr.

I'm going to go buy a corn dog from sonics and sneeze while eating it subsequently forcing it down into my esophagus. The design of the corn dog is clearly flawed (especially more so with Sonics' corn dogs :rolleyes:). They had their coffee at that temperature for a reason. That reason was not to burn people. Did the court force them to change the temperature of the coffee? NO. I can name a hundred other things. Wendy's chili will give you third degree burns. Who's broke? :D

Note: Sucks that she was an old lady. :(

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Tri-SLi is worthless. If they can't get SLI to work 100% how the hell are they going to get tri-sli to work. Does Crysis even work yet with SLI?
 
I read that entire article and I received a 33 for reading on my ACT so don't question my comprehension level.

Coffee to hot. (point of view)
Spill on self.
Duuurrrrrrrrrr.

I'm going to go buy a corn dog from sonics and sneeze while eating it subsequently forcing it down into my esophagus. The design of the corn dog is clearly flawed (especially more so with Sonics' corn dogs :rolleyes:). They had their coffee at that temperature for a reason. That reason was not to burn people. Did the court force them to change the temperature of the coffee? NO. I can name a hundred other things. Wendy's chili will give you third degree burns. Who's broke? :D

Note: Sucks that she was an old lady. :(

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Tri-SLi is worthless. If they can't get SLI to work 100% how the hell are they going to get tri-sli to work. Does Crysis even work yet with SLI?

Coffee too hot is a point of view? At 180 degrees, it gives third degree burns in under 15 seconds. There is no point of view other than it was way too hot.

Good point you made; did the court force McD's to lower the tempature to a safe temp(key word, safe).

Answer: no.

But the lawsuit did. Which is the entire point of suing negligent companies. The only way to force them to stop doing something blatantly negligent to consumers well being is to hit them in the pocket book. Oh, and yes, I question your comprehension for not understand that.

Good for you on your ACT, btw. It is also the first time I have seen someone use that as how smart they are on the internet. I found it so funny, pee actually dripped out.

There are plenty of stupid, pointless lawsuits. This was not one of them, this is a text book example of a good one.
 
What do you call two thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean?





A good start...
 
Ignorance is bliss.

Yes, it is. That statement explains why you are so blissful.

But feel free to rattle on about it, Im done talking about it, and with this thread. This thread has been ruined.

And triple SLI is worth it.
 
I still like the idea of Tri-SLI in a professional environment (i.e. 3x Quadro FX5600's, etc.). However, for gaming and our end of the market... yeah, it sux the biggest d!ck of all time. Price and power consumption, both are unrivaled (for obvious reasons, lol).

http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_sli.html
 
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