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AMDx2 vista question

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I have been encountering a issue where I want to run 2 F@H consoles, that are setup so that they both work on different proteins on my dual core. But it always causes my computer to shut down, it does not matter if I have them set to only use one core each or not.

I have tried the dual core amd fix, but that is for xp and as far as I can tell not for vista yet.:(

Some times when I restart my computer and I check the eventlog's I will get a error that tells me that windows recovered from a unexpected shutdown.

I was wondering what I can do to fix this issue? I am fully patched, vista and driver wise.:confused:

any help would be great

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, if it has could you please point me to the past post:p

thanks
 
Does your computer actually turn itself off suddenly? There isnt' goign to be a dual core fix for vista becuase there is nothing to fix... Vista has the proper support for X2 right out of the box.
 
RamonGTP said:
Does your computer actually turn itself off suddenly? There isnt' goign to be a dual core fix for vista becuase there is nothing to fix... Vista has the proper support for X2 right out of the box.
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yes but only when I am running 2F@H, or 1F@H and 1 seti at the same time.

So core one could be seti and core two F@H, or core one F@H console and core 2 another.

I have run every benchmark to try to get it to repeat it, but the only way it happens is with F@H or seti.:confused: :confused: :confused:

O and not once did I get a BSOD or any type of lock up error it just shuts off, and when I power it back on it is just like nothing happened. Except for every now and then I will have a event log of unexpected shutdown.

And also I have slowed my processor down to 2.5 and even stock and it still happens
 
Power supply? Temperatures? Are you able to run Orthos overnight?
 
My temps are 117F for my processor so I am sure that it is not the problem,
My power supply is a 480 antec. I should get my pc power & Cooling 750 . So I will be able to find out if that is the problem or not.

I should note that when I say it shuts down it shuts down the proper way, in that when I watched it, windows played its shutdown sound and said it was shutting down.

That is why I said that only some times that I get the unexpected shutdown:confused:

And as far as orthos I ran it over night to find my max overclock, which I am kind of thinking might be held back by my power supply, But I am not sure, so like i said above I will find out thursday when I get it.
 
If windows is shutting down, then you should check memory. Run memtest for at least 10 passes, and see if that produces any errors.
 
Wow...so it's properly shutting down? Do you have any software that could account for this?
 
quadnad said:
Wow...so it's properly shutting down? Do you have any software that could account for this?
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Not that I can think of, because it only happens when I am folding. That is why I am like WTF what is going on, I can run games that max out both cores run orthos that also will max the memory to and nothing else seems to do it as far as I can tell. I will have to try the smp client to see if it makes any difference, I am wondering if it is something like windows will loose track of which process goes to what core and panics or something like that. But I have no clue of what is doing it if no one else has encountered this problem, maby it is time to reinstall.:mad:

maby my power supply is starting to die and is sending a shutdown signal to the motherboard is about the only thing I can think of.

O and also it does not shutdown properly 100% of the time because well lets say it happens 4 times in a week, at least one time there will be a error log of imporper shutdown. But most of the time when I let it run at night with 2F@H running I will hear the windows shutdown sound and it will turn off, while i am in bed. It always seems to do it when I have the 2 F@H running and I am not doing anything on my computer. But if I do the exact same thing while doing something on the computer it does not happen.
 
Forgot to mention that when I got my AMDx2 that I did a full reinstall, but maby something got messed up?:confused:
 
I wonder if I am running into the same type of issue talked about in Hardocp's review of vista

Stability:

I'm just going to cut to the chase: On both Pugetina and Whakataruna, the computer would suddenly, and without warning, reboot. This was not to say that the computer crashed with something like a blue screen of death (BSOD) - the computer went into shutdown mode without being prompted or giving me a chance to save the data that I was working on. As a result, I lost some of my work.

That is essentially the definition of unstable, and as this was tested on two separate machines with the same result, I'm fairly sure that it's not my hardware (which works perfectly in Windows XP and Linux, by the way).

But for me it is a shutdown issue not a reboot:confused:
 
Read the article I wrote on this : http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1201813

I put some advices there for testing the stability. It is known than when running the Gromacs core, it is stressing the computer a different way and could actually shutdown any computer who are tested stable with other stability software like Orthos.

Also, I had my X2 system shutdown sometime and this was in the end due to some thermal checking done in the BIOS who will shutdown on temps and voltages. I guess a single unharmful voltage spike made it shut down for nothing. So check and disable any overvoltage and overheating protection in the BIOS.

 
Odd that it likes Orthos and dislikes F@H. Are you running the Small FFT test on Orthos?
 
LstOfTheBrunnenG said:
Odd that it likes Orthos and dislikes F@H. Are you running the Small FFT test on Orthos?
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No I run the blend, that does both the CPU and memory stress. I got my new power supply today and am in the process of running my two processes of folding to see if it still will happen.
 
Xilikon said:
Read the article I wrote on this : http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1201813

I put some advices there for testing the stability. It is known than when running the Gromacs core, it is stressing the computer a different way and could actually shutdown any computer who are tested stable with other stability software like Orthos.

Also, I had my X2 system shutdown sometime and this was in the end due to some thermal checking done in the BIOS who will shutdown on temps and voltages. I guess a single unharmful voltage spike made it shut down for nothing. So check and disable any overvoltage and overheating protection in the BIOS.

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I have the overheating protection on in the bios, but I have it set to 140F so it should not be a problem unless it is the warning temp that is the problem.

I have the shutdown at 140F and I think the warning is at 120F if I remember my bios right
 
1) don't run blend. run cpu torture test. good money says it shuts down. I can't believe that a gromacs will get your cpu *that* much hotter than orthos.

2) those autoshutdown temps are comically low. 60c? christ I run 68C at full load (quiet pc, warm room). There absolutely no danger whatsoever to your PC at those temps. I believe they'll survive up to 80c or so.

3)I thought that the smp client was only recommended for quadcore systems? I remember reading that it was less efficient on dualcore, I could be pulling that out of my ass though.
 
thrawn86 said:
1) don't run blend. run cpu torture test. good money says it shuts down. I can't believe that a gromacs will get your cpu *that* much hotter than orthos.

3)I thought that the smp client was only recommended for quadcore systems? I remember reading that it was less efficient on dualcore, I could be pulling that out of my ass though.
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The gromacs stress tests might not increase the temps more than others but it will stress some parts more so it is good at finding instabilities. Certain type of mathematical calculation stress certain parts and others stress other parts ;)

For the SMP being less efficient on dual cores, it's false and I got 17 machines running the SMP and all are dual cores. However, there is a certain bottom line to not cross with the speed (Like Core Duo, from the first generation, is barely able to complete the WU so are Pentium D805).

 
thrawn86 said:
1) don't run blend. run cpu torture test. good money says it shuts down. I can't believe that a gromacs will get your cpu *that* much hotter than orthos.

2) those autoshutdown temps are comically low. 60c? christ I run 68C at full load (quiet pc, warm room). There absolutely no danger whatsoever to your PC at those temps. I believe they'll survive up to 80c or so.

3)I thought that the smp client was only recommended for quadcore systems? I remember reading that it was less efficient on dualcore, I could be pulling that out of my ass though.
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Dont you think that 68C is a bit hot? my Athlon X2 6000+ Runs at a mere 49C and thats at full load. the only thing in a computer that should get that hot is a video card and usually mine only gets to about 65ish
 
thrawn86 said:
1) don't run blend. run cpu torture test. good money says it shuts down. I can't believe that a gromacs will get your cpu *that* much hotter than orthos.

2) those autoshutdown temps are comically low. 60c? christ I run 68C at full load (quiet pc, warm room). There absolutely no danger whatsoever to your PC at those temps. I believe they'll survive up to 80c or so.

3)I thought that the smp client was only recommended for quadcore systems? I remember reading that it was less efficient on dualcore, I could be pulling that out of my ass though.
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My system on a hot day will not usually get over 120F that is why I have it set to shutdown at 140, if it is getting 20 degrees hotter than normal I want to know so I can check things.

Also with my new power supply it failed to run 2 single F@H's at the same time, I will try the SMP and see if it has different results.

Thanks for the help so far everyone:D
 
well I just ran into trouble and got a nvstor.sys error and now vista boots so slow that after 6 min it was not even done loading the desktop. Tried to to a last known config but no good.:mad:

UPDATE: WOW Microsoft's disk check actually works and fixed the problem, but I think the nvstor.sys is coming from the SMP client. The error started when I first started using the SMP client. Will do more testing to findout.

Well I did have to reinstall windows, the scandisk made windows boot faster but the nvstor error keeps coming up, so I dont know if the SMP client caused the whole thing to happen or just sent what ever was wrong over the edge.
 
I wonder if what ever caused the nvstor error is what was the problem the whole time:confused: I just wish that nvidia would release at least one or two more drivers for the NForce4 chipset:mad:
 
Well it turns out that it might have been my 80GB OS drive that might have been the whole problem. I am still getting everything re-installed, so I still need to test the other drive I through in. Stupid I am, need to use brain me does:p

Also I ran into a strange problem when I take out the vista install disk it will no longer show the vista bootloader, so it loads strait into windows xp and wont even let you chose which os to boot. As longs as the disk is in the drive everything works just fine and I can boot both os's :confused: :confused:

I have heard of the problem but dont remember what to do to fix it, any help would be great:confused:

Thanks
 
Just wanted to post a update for those who were trying to help me, it was the hard drive that was the problem the whole time. I have replaced it and now I am running the 64bit version of vista, with two F@H at once. Does anyone know when or if the SMP client will be 64bit soon? So I dont have to run 2 F@H at the same time.

Thanks for the help
 
If it's an SMP client, it does not matter if it's 32 or 64bit, you won't have to run two of them.
 
I tried to install the F@H SMP client on my vista 64bit os, and it would not install all the way.
I was reading the F@H forums and it seems like it is not 64bit compatible right now:mad:

O and when I said running 2 consoles it was just the regular F@H consoles not 2 SMP consoles
 
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