Amd v. Intel whats the diff

locutus24

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ignitionxvi said:

Q: I need an analogy to explain the difference between AMD and Intel

A: Think of it as a pick-up vs. semi. Some rigs can hit 100MPH with 40 tons, while a pick-up could hit about 150MPH with 1 ton. The pickup is able to make more runs back and forth because it is faster than the rig, but it hauls less each time around.

Thanks Brad4321!

I quoted this from the AMD Processor FAQ forum http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=794579&page=1&pp=20
Comparing a socket 478 to a socket A what makes Socket A superior assuming that socket A is the rig that can do 100mph with 40 tons, and that socket 478 is the 150mph pickup. What is it about the amd architecture that makes it better. Cause i was trying to figure this out after reading the amd processor faq page, cause i just went from a Socket 478P4 with 512k L2cache to a Barton core with 512K L2 cache. For a while i used same ram, HD, and vid card even with the same stuff i noticed a performance increase with only a new mobo and processor.
Would anybody happen to know why the Socket A is more proficient then Socket 478?
Sorry about the long post, and thank you for solving the conundrum of a problem that im having
 
AMD processors have higher instructions per clock rate. The difference in pipelines of both sides makes quite a bit of difference as well. I ran into this, which explains what a pipeline is and the importance of one.

Socket A and Socket 478 processors were from the same generation, thus they were pretty close. Anyway..which P4? and which AXP? Core names and amounts of cache don't help much :p Anyway...the socket 478 P4's were supposed to beat the AXP's..and they did quite well against them. Maybe you had a really low end P4 and upgraded to a high end AXP?

 
locutus24 said:
I quoted this from the AMD Processor FAQ forum http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=794579&page=1&pp=20
Comparing a socket 478 to a socket A what makes Socket A superior assuming that socket A is the rig that can do 100mph with 40 tons, and that socket 478 is the 150mph pickup. What is it about the amd architecture that makes it better. Cause i was trying to figure this out after reading the amd processor faq page, cause i just went from a Socket 478P4 with 512k L2cache to a Barton core with 512K L2 cache. For a while i used same ram, HD, and vid card even with the same stuff i noticed a performance increase with only a new mobo and processor.
Would anybody happen to know why the Socket A is more proficient then Socket 478?
Sorry about the long post, and thank you for solving the conundrum of a problem that im having

I've never found that to be true, Socket A was a good deal less proficient than Socket 478, my AXP @ 2.6 is quite the bottleneck in modern games where-as my pentium 4 mobile @ 3.6 was not, also, the nForce 2 series has quite a bit of problems never rectified (instead they created the nF3 series, which has a whole new set of problems on it's own.) where-as the i865/i875 is unbelievably more stable and quite a bit more advanced then the nF2.
This may seem like an AMD bash, but that's not my intent, I'm just pointing out why I don't think the Socket A platform is not more proficient.

Do I favor either company over the other? Negative, I own several systems built with hardware from both companies, to say one is better than the other based on anything other than real-world performance is just plain idiotic.
 
Cause i went from an intel mobo with a P4 2.4, this is the one i was using
Tech Spec
Core Northwood
Name Pentium 4 2.4B
Operating Frequency 2.4GHz
FSB 533MHz
L1 Cache 12KB+8KB
L2 Cache 512KB
Process Type 0.13 µm
Hyper-Threading Support No
64 bit Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2
Voltage 1.5/1.525V
and now im using a barton core 2500+ at 1.8ghz cause my KM400 chipset doesnt do much oc'ing aside from jumper adjustments
 
and you see visible performance differences? hmm...you sure you did it right? o_0

 
gwai lo said:
and you see visible performance differences? hmm...you sure you did it right? o_0


Well, it's the northwood B, that's understandable, now
 
gwai lo said:
and you see visible performance differences? hmm...you sure you did it right? o_0

Yea my boot up times went down quick like, gaming performance went up even though i was using a pci vid card loading programs consisted of less waiting and more doing. I dont know i could be crazy but to me it seems with just the switch of a processor and mobo, a fair performance increase was noticed
 
Well now i have updated my ram and vid card so i cant testify to a legit performace increase, but the imediate switch while maintaining same ram and vid card definetly seemed like much better speed.
 
I do not know the specifics of your switch, but if you you switched mobos you had to reformat and reinstall, correct? The reformat/reinstall would be my answer to the quicker boot/load times at the beginning. It seems the more windows updates/patches you get the slower your windows load time becomes :(
 
Well right now im doing my best to avoid installing updates/patches, its hard to do cause pop-ups to update come up all the time. Yea reinstalling win xp did speed things up, but i didnt think that that would account for D3 and HL2 running with increased performance. My mind could be making stuff up just to try and prove that my switch was not futile, but soon i might be getting a basic A64 setup going with a Newcastle 2800+ since it is the cheapest. I just want A64 so im not bothering with what processor im getting, but with that i will definetly see a performance increase. I might even build an 478 board :D ,
Enough with my rambling, thanks for helping me further understand how processors work in general and how a Socket A could possibly be faster then a Socket 478
Edit: this forum was swarmed with post faster then, well my Socket A can load win xp and get me going on WoW
 
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