Lorien
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anyone know if trinity will come with PCIe 3.0?
"Enthusiasts Who Bought a GPU Two Years: It's Time to Upgrade"
Did they not have room for the "Ago", or could they not afford an actual native English speaker to review the slides for them?
"Enthusiasts Who Bought a GPU Two Years: It's Time to Upgrade"
Did they not have room for the "Ago", or could they not afford an actual native English speaker to review the slides for them?
"Enthusiasts Who Bought a GPU Two Years: It's Time to Upgrade"
Did they not have room for the "Ago", or could they not afford an actual native English speaker to review the slides for them?
Children, you can discuss grammar and continue your critique of a marketing slide using your arm chair university degree expertise in your own thread.
Now, some leaked benches: http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9193514&postcount=195
BF3 1920*1080 4MSAA-FXAA Ultra
7950 36.7fps
7870 35.9fps
GTX570 35.5fps
6970 32.5fps
7850 30.1fps
6950 28.6fps
Crysis 2 1920*1080 Ingame AA Max Detail DX11
7950 43.5fps
7870 39fps
GTX570 36.2fps
6970 33.1fps
7850 32.4fps
6950 29.9fps
Those numbers look way off. I have only checked the 7950 but most sites get that over 50fps in BF3 at 1920x1200, an even higher resolution.
Same with Crysis 2, HD7950 closer to 55fps at 1920x1200.
Children, you can discuss grammar and continue your critique of a marketing slide using your arm chair university degree expertise in your own thread.
Doesn't seem to make sense for the price spread to be that big. Look at the transistor counts of both chips, they're either salvage parts from the 7970 or the 7850 is a salvage part from the 7870. Bandwidth is the same so the bus width is the same between parts too and the memory chips are the same as well. Voltage regulation might be different but not different enough to justify that sort of price difference.One speculated pricing bracket said the 7870 is $400 and the 7850 is $300.
IMO I think AMD should knock $50 off their new 7xxx parts and drop the 69xx parts by at least $70. I sort of understand why they're pricing their stuff the way they are now given what the competition has to offer, but still, it is kinda annoying that its so high.Prices would be fine with me if they were knocked off $50 and out perform the last gen 6900s.
Its more reasonable to expect the 7870 to be around $400 and the 7850 to be around $350 based on this info.
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anyone know if trinity will come with PCIe 3.0?
Doesn't seem to make sense for the price spread to be that big. Look at the transistor counts of both chips, they're either salvage parts from the 7970 or the 7850 is a salvage part from the 7870. Bandwidth is the same so the bus width is the same between parts too and the memory chips are the same as well. Voltage regulation might be different but not different enough to justify that sort of price difference.
Its more reasonable to expect the 7870 to be around $400 and the 7850 to be around $350 based on this info.
IMO I think AMD should knock $50 off their new 7xxx parts and drop the 69xx parts by at least $70. I sort of understand why they're pricing their stuff the way they are now given what the competition has to offer, but still, it is kinda annoying that its so high.
doesn't seem reasonable to me. why would you spend $400 on a 7870 if you could get a much better card for ~$50 more?
If they're comparing it to a GTX 570, it should cost $299. Otherwise I'm not sure what they're getting at.
You could have linked the forum post and credited the author, or are you ashamed of admitting which forum you read?
Well then that begs the question, why didn't they compare it to a GTX 580? I don't know, but I do find it interesting as well. My guess is with the 7950 only being a bit faster than the GTX 580, the 7870 will be a bit less than the GTX 580.If it is 1.4x a GTX 570 (for the 7870) then they ought to be comparing it to a GTX 580. I don't think the GTX 580 is that much faster than a GTX 570.
Well then that begs the question, why didn't they compare it to a GTX 580? I don't know, but I do find it interesting as well. My guess is with the 7950 only being a bit faster than the GTX 580, the 7870 will be a bit less than the GTX 580.
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Lorien you seen this slide by any chance? Saw this in another forum.
I saw it a beyond3d myself which linked to the Semiaccurate post.You could have linked the forum post and credited the author, or are you ashamed of admitting which forum you read?
Well then that begs the question, why didn't they compare it to a GTX 580? I don't know, but I do find it interesting as well. My guess is with the 7950 only being a bit faster than the GTX 580, the 7870 will be a bit less than the GTX 580.
a gtx580 is only 15-20% faster than the gtx570. if a 7870 is 1.4 times faster than the gtx570 then that makes it 20-25% faster than the gtx580. um even a 7970 is only 20-25% faster than a gtx580.If it is 1.4x a GTX 570 (for the 7870) then they ought to be comparing it to a GTX 580. I don't think the GTX 580 is that much faster than a GTX 570.
a gtx580 is only 15-20% faster than the gtx570. if a 7870 is 1.4 times faster than the gtx570 then that makes it 20-25% faster than the gtx580. um even a 7970 is only 20-25% faster than a gtx580.
yes if you look at the specs though it will be very close to the 7950. the 7950 has no more than a 12% advantage over the 7870 on any metric and in fact the 7870 has 25% more pixel fill rate than the 7950.Well, those are marketing numbers, so figure you can probably lop 20% right off the top. It still seems too close to the 7950 though.
probably not and there is no reason to do so. trinity is an APU and thus designed to use the onboard igp. there's no point in having pci-e 3.0 with it and no pile driver won't be using pci-e 3.0 either. the cost to add pci-e 3.0 out ways the benefit of having it by a large margin. maybe in 2-3 years pci-e 3.0 will actually show its usefulness but for now its just another sales gimmick.