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i just bought a second Q6600 for 135. amd just didn't have performance for me that i needed
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It's weird. I bought a retail Phenom 9600 a couple of weeks ago for $105. Quad core for $105. Should be a no-brainer good deal, right?i just bought a second Q6600 for 135. amd just didn't have performance for me that i needed
It's weird. I bought a retail Phenom 9600 a couple of weeks ago for $105. Quad core for $105. Should be a no-brainer good deal, right?
After 7 months of being spoiled by overclocked Q6600 CPUs, the 9600 (TLB patch disabled) just doesn't feel fast or even feel like much of a bargain. It doesn't help that I can't overclock the 9600 either, and even if I could, with a stock cooler it wouldn't go much higher anyways.
The cherry on top is that the system ([email protected]/HD3870) at idle and load uses almost as much power as my main system's overclocked Q6600 @ 3GHz (Q6600@3GHz/8800GT) when configured similarly.
It's weird. I bought a retail Phenom 9600 a couple of weeks ago for $105. Quad core for $105. Should be a no-brainer good deal, right?
After 7 months of being spoiled by overclocked Q6600 CPUs, the 9600 (TLB patch disabled) just doesn't feel fast or even feel like much of a bargain. It doesn't help that I can't overclock the 9600 either, and even if I could, with a stock cooler it wouldn't go much higher anyways.
The cherry on top is that the system ([email protected]/HD3870) at idle and load uses almost as much power as my main system's overclocked Q6600 @ 3GHz (Q6600@3GHz/8800GT) when configured similarly.
But you can go around and around with comparisons: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
The E7200 will beat the X2 5600+, for about the same price. If you want to start comparing prices, you have to wait until the cut is available.
Its $126 now, pre-price cut.. At $130 I would take the E7200 Wolfdale over that X2 5600 any day;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
I figure it at less than 70% of the performance for 60% of the price of my first Q6600 ($170), plus I can't use it for virtualization (not a very good server) without a huge performance loss. The power consumption is what sours me on it the most.you got about 75% of the performance for half the price.
That's a big IF, and only if you need accelerated virtualization support, which ATM only is *required* by MS's WS2008 product.The catch here is that if you want virtualization support you have to step up to the E8200, while all of AMD's Athlon X2 CPUs feature it.
That's a big IF, and only if you need accelerated virtualization support, which ATM only is *required* by MS's WS2008 product.
Most people don't need it and if they do, the E63x0 chips are available cheaper, but even lower end processors can run VMWare. I even run it on my low end laptop, although it limits 64-bit client usage.
That's a big IF, and only if you need accelerated virtualization support, which ATM only is *required* by MS's WS2008 product.
Most people don't need it and if they do, the E63x0 chips are available cheaper, but even lower end processors can run VMWare. I even run it on my low end laptop, although it limits 64-bit client usage.
I made the same suggestion as you did when the topic came up in the Intel forum a few weeks ago. Dual core AM2 CPUs are dirt cheap and it makes little sense to buy a more expensive Core 2 ($120 and up) or Pentium D 9x0 (bleh, but under $80 for a 3GHz model) when cheap X2s are around for lightweight virtualization loads. And I think the rev G Athlon 64 also has hardware support for AMD-V. I haven't bothered testing my AM2 3500+ with VMWare.Xen requires it for any Windows support at all, but I do see what you're saying.