AMD Most Bang For Buck

Well if you don't consider overclocking then maybe.

However you can get a Q6600 to 3.6-3.8 Ghz quite easily these days, and you would struggle getting the Phenom 9500 to 3 Ghz.

I think your bench marks could be inaccurate when you are not taking overclocking into account.
 
You should redo the Q6600 to a $200 price point. They are available at that price from Micro Center and Fry's now. That would move it to 1.275. Using ONE benchmark is absolutely useless to make any sort of statement from by the way, and validates nothing.
 
Not to mention, performance isnt based on clocks alone.

The ease of overclock can easily turn a $200 processor into a $900 one.

Intel FTW
 
most bang for buck = most aps for least $

i would say AMD has always fit that bill, in the low budget segment.
cheaper CPUs and cheaper mobos.
 
I don't know, as I haven't had a chance to try out AMD's latest offerings (I had a Opty165 & 175), but I originally bought a $100 E4300 back in May 2007 as a temporary CPU before the Intel's July price drops. I was planning to get a Q6600 after the price drop, but my E4300 at 3.3ghz was plenty fast so I skipped the upgrade. I would still be using the E4300 @ 3.3Ghz today if I didn't end up sacrificing it to my nephews pc build. The E4300 was actually my first intel since the P1 75mhz.
 
Another reason AMD is a good buy is that a current AMD AM2+ motherboard and DDR2 should last you a lot longer for upgrading since Intel is coming out with Nehalem this year which uses a new socket and DDR3.
 
From AMD's more recent past history I wouldn't count on that. S754, S940, S939, AM2, AM2+, Socket F, and AM3 in 2008?

Plus do you think AMD's best AM2+ processor at the end of life cycle of the AM2+ socket be better then the best Intel LGA775 processor at the sockets end of life cycle?
 
Another reason AMD is a good buy is that a current AMD AM2+ motherboard and DDR2 should last you a lot longer for upgrading since Intel is coming out with Nehalem this year which uses a new socket and DDR3.

This would be true if AMD was anywhere remotely close to the performance of intel right now. But they're not.
 
Sure AMD is the cheapest. But I wouldn't say its the best bang for the buck.
 
Another reason AMD is a good buy is that a current AMD AM2+ motherboard and DDR2 should last you a lot longer for upgrading since Intel is coming out with Nehalem this year which uses a new socket and DDR3.

AMD will be transitioning to Socket AM3 in the near future, which will use DDR3. Although it is pin-compatible with AM2/AM2+, the integrated memory controllers on current AMD chips are incompatible with DDR3 so anyone wishing to upgrade will still need to buy a new CPU, mobo, and RAM. It has no advantage over Intel when it comes to long-term upgradeability.
 
AMD will be transitioning to Socket AM3 in the near future, which will use DDR3. Although it is pin-compatible with AM2/AM2+, the integrated memory controllers on current AMD chips are incompatible with DDR3 so anyone wishing to upgrade will still need to buy a new CPU, mobo, and RAM. It has no advantage over Intel when it comes to long-term upgradeability.

If you have a AM2/AM2+ motherboard with DDR2, you should be able to drop in an AM3 processor. An AM3 CPU with have a DDR2 memory controller.

What you can't do is put an AM2/AM2+ CPU in an AM3 motherboard.
Socket AM3

If you go Intel now, you'll need a new motherboard and memory to use their next processors. So going AMD now can save you the cost of a motherboard and RAM next time you upgrade.
 
But will the performance be competitive? If Intel's 775 socket reaches its end of life cycle in late 2008 early 2009 and the performance of the processors is still better then AMD then it doesn't matter if you can buy an AM3 chip.

I really don't see AMD coming back by 2009.
 
However you can get a Q6600 to 3.6-3.8 Ghz quite easily these days, and you would struggle getting the Phenom 9500 to 3 Ghz.

Value should never be based on OC because the OC is never guaranteed. My E6850 won't even do 3.6ghz without crashing due to heat stress. But that is with the stock HSF so need to spend another $60.00 to get another HSF and that requires me to take my mb out of the case to install because of the backplate. No thanks, it can do 3.4ghz fine on stock HSF.
 
Generally speaking, AMD mobos are cheaper than intel mobos, as the northbridge doesn't contain an expensive memory controller.
 
amd is the best bang for your buck i think, here is a cheap amd system

x2 4200+ $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103214
transcend jetram pc2 6400 2x1gb $35+shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208283
Biostar TF520-A2 $60+shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138082
Rosewill 500w PSU $50+shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182016
cooler master Centurion 532 $22+shipping http://cmusashop.coolermaster-usa.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=57
ECS 8800gt $160+shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134035R
Rosewill RCX-Z940-LX $15+shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200036

not bad for around $420
 
I hate to side track but umm that rosewill 500W is some pretty concentrated fail. Be way better off with an FSP Blue storm 400W or Silverstone ST400W . Both of which are real 400W psus as opposed to fluff 3000A on 5V rail 500Ws.
 
Why are amd/intel transitioning to DDR3? Do they really need that faster memory? what kind of multiplier x cpu are we talking about for the next gen of intel/amd chips?
 
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