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Just built a PII 965 system. I didn't have AM3 hardware for any of my existing coolers so used the stock fan. The darn thing sounds like a jet engine. Anyone have a good recommendation for an effective, QUIET, and affordable CPU fan?

Thanks
 
depends on the room, my top suggestions if you have the space is the Sun Beam Core Contact Freezer, or Cooler Master Hyper 212+, either can usually be had for $25 on sale(one or the other is typically onsale, think its the 212+'s now...)
 
I actually think there's something wrong b/c the stock fan is running full bore and my temps are crazy - 60 C at idle...
 
Could be the paste -- just stuck the stock cooler on there. Airflow is fine. Never had a heat problem before, so I'll have to trouble shoot later this week.
 
stock paste shouldnt put it at 60 at idle/load with stock speeds/voltage.....check what the BIOS is setitng the voltage to....shouldnt be above 1.35v max for stock, can and should be lower
 
Yeah - already checked voltage: 1.35

I didn't use a good thermal paste, but it shouldn't be causing this much difference. Something is clearly wrong though. I am going to pick up a new cooler and reseat everything and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise, I don't know if a bad CPU could cause temps like this, but If a new cooler doesn't make a difference, I guess I'll RMA it ...
 
hmmm, temp sensors may be bad. try a different cooler(since your getting one) it may be your didnt get the clip fully down as well.....any number of things, mainly cooler related

let us know after you try a new cooler
 
Here's the download after idling for 15 minutes:

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definatly high....i woul dkeep it off for now to be honest man, thats too close once you put any load on it to be in my comfort range.
 
+1 Cooler Master Hyper 212+ if you have big case.
Otherwise, CM H50 water cooler. Idle/load: 36/45C
Clean up the wiring, get more fans.
 
Booted again this morning and tempertures were still high, but better. I uninstalled the overclocking utility that came with the MSI board and that seemed to have helped (even though I haven't even thought of overclocking yet).

Wiring is ok. Running 2 120mm fans (1 front bottom, 1 rear). One of them is plugged into the power supply and doesn't report.
 
Something is definitely wrong. I run my 965 at stock with the retail cooler, and mine idles in the low 30s.

edit: forgot to mention that I'm using MX-2 paste
 
the paste wont make a huge difference......at stock speeds it is good enough, no need to replace.....the OP has a mounting issue it sounds like, or faulty readers......


OP- as i said try reseating and/or getting a new cooler
 
+1 for 212+

My undervolted Athlon II 640 from 1.35V (default) to 1.2V @ stock 3Ghz speed , with 212+ and MX-3 paste, goes 20C/34C (idle/load)
 
For me I settled on the OCZ Vendetta2 cooler. I just been through a bunch a BS cooler issues, on a new build. The hyper212 is a good cooler. The reason I went with the Vendetta2. It that the cooler attaches to the motherboard using the standard bracket and just uses the standard amd retension clip. With the hyper 212 and AM3 setups you have to install a bracket on the back of the motherboard. The case I used does not have the cut out, for the cpu mounting bracket, with that issue. I would have had to pull the motherboard, So it was the Vendetta2 for me. So far so good at idle and now on the net I'm at 32c... Under full load I have not went over 44c. When the fan revs up the temp goes down. I'm happy with the results. With cpu coolers you run into a bunch of BS. I tried using Corsair Dominator memory modules. They have huge heat sinks on the modules, the height of them, limit your use of cpu cooler big time. So I just kept it simple with the Vendetta2 and then went with Crucial memeory that has lower heat sinks.
 
what the hell are you talking about? All my boards since sockeet 754 have always had a backplate........not saying the OCZ is a bad cooler, just that most if not all AM3/AM2+/AM2 boards have a backplate installed and coolers just use the standard bracket......
 
Just about all motherboards come with a backplate and retention device that is for the standard amd retension clip. Most cpu coolers are universal and require you to chage the backplate and use their retension device setup. Check it out you will find I'm correct on this issue. The board I used is a gigabyte 890gpa-ud3h and AMD Phenom2 965be. The cooler works fine and is easy to setup.
On most of the newer type cpu coolers they require you to change the backplate on the motherboard. You have to use the one they provide to mount the cooler. The hyper 212plus has a backplate provided. You have to remove the original backplate And use the retention device provided.. That means removing the motherboard for me. If I had a case that had a cut out for that it would not have been a issue. After I had the system built up. I did not want to pull the motherboard out. So I went with the OCZ vendetta2 it just clips on the mother board bracket that came on the motherboard. Much easier to install to install this type of cooler. Plenty of issues with these larger cpu coolers this is just the tip of the ice berg. When the cooler hangs over the memory modules. Now you have to worry about the cooler clearing the memory modules. I just been down these roads. Lucky for me the pc shop had plenty of cpu coolers to choose from. So I was able to find a cpu cooler that was easy to install.
 
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aparently then i've installed all my CPU coolers other than the H50 incorrectly.....my Core Contact Freezer(nearly identicle to the 212+) didnt even come with one.....there is NO REASON to replace the backplate unless the instructions specifically state it....since the majority do come with a metal back plate on it....

I dont have personal experience with the 212+ figured it was identicle mounting, or very similar to the CCF, but it appears CM went with something like a screw in method (unlike all coolers but the H50 that i have used)
 
I was getting those temps with stock for my 965 as well. Upgraded to the CM 212+ and first thing in the morning I Idle at 32 and after using my computer all day and my room gets toasty, I idle at 39

I have yet to go above 48 on stress tests
 
W.Feather said:
aparently then i've installed all my CPU coolers other than the H50 incorrectly.....my Core Contact Freezer(nearly identicle to the 212+) didnt even come with one.....there is NO REASON to replace the backplate unless the instructions specifically state it....since the majority do come with a metal back plate on it....

I dont have personal experience with the 212+ figured it was identicle mounting, or very similar to the CCF, but it appears CM went with something like a screw in method (unlike all coolers but the H50 that i have used)
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When you get into the larger sized cpu coolers. The ball game changes,now you need to change the mounting brackets and backplate. And the instructions do call for it. The mounting devices that are supplied with the cpu cooler will not work with the standard backplates that come on most motherboards. Google or Bing is your friend. Check out some of the cpu cooler reviews and you will find. That you are wrong, you need to cheange the backplates and brakets over. And their is reason it's for the weight and size of the larger type coolers. The cpu coolers need the added support, the newer brackets and backplates provide. The coolers that you used, must have used the standard AMD setup. Some of them do not use that setup.
 
have you seen the Core Contact Freezer? It is rather large, and atleast the size of the 212+......i'm just saying i had not run across one that did not use a clip mounting system
 
If your still looking at cheap coolers, I would look at the Kingwin XT-1264. Another forum member suggested it to me and I'm using it on a core unlocked 720BE @ 3.4GHz (1.35v). Temps never get above 50c in Prime95 testing. It also uses a retention clip that fits on the stock mounting bracket. The only downside is that compared to my TRUE and Scythe Ninja mini coolers, the mounting system is not exactly user friendly unless you pull out the motherboard first.
 
W.Feather said:
have you seen the Core Contact Freezer? It is rather large, and atleast the size of the 212+......i'm just saying i had not run across one that did not use a clip mounting system
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With the CM 212+ you have to remove the stock backplate on a AM2/3 motherboard.

It has its own backplate and retention system that as far as I can tell are not compatible with the stock backplate.

When I built my new X6 setup, I remember staring at the backplate system for a while trying to understand how it worked on the 212+ and how the whole thing fitted together.

It mounts a bit different to say the least.
 
W.Feather said:
have you seen the Core Contact Freezer? It is rather large, and atleast the size of the 212+......i'm just saying i had not run across one that did not use a clip mounting system
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The cooler you mention looks like a nice cooler. It may be a better cooler with the 4 heat pipes over the OCZ Vendetta2, with 3 heat pipes. The local shop I deal with did not carry the Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2. So I went with the Vendetta2. I'm happy with the Vendetta2. I did have a issue with it. The fan was dead on the cooler. So I had to buy a new fan. I went with a Cooler Master fan that is a little faster (rpm's) fan than the one that comes with the Vendetta2. OCZ is sending me a new fan but I needed another fan fast, so I could get up and running. The store did not have another Vendetta2 in stock, so I had to live with it. And replace the fan. As it stands now I'm keeping the setup I have as is. I will keep the new fan that is in route as a spare. So far so good. I just checked the cpu temp and on the net I'm at 30c. With this combination of the Cooler Master fan. And Vendetta2 cooler it works fine. It even dropped my case temp about 10c. I'm leaving well enough alone. I'm going with If it ain't broke don't fix it So far I'm at 30c just cruising and 44c under max load I'm happy with that.
 
W.Feather said:
stock paste shouldnt put it at 60 at idle/load with stock speeds/voltage.....check what the BIOS is setitng the voltage to....shouldnt be above 1.35v max for stock, can and should be lower
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This.

Otherwise RMA. Should not idle at 60c, even with stock cooler. Maybe the solder didn't adhere to the heat spreader properly when manufactured.
 
Put on the Coolermaster 212. MUCH better temps now. Not sure I had everything seated correctly originally though. The included fan is a bit loud, but when I clock it down it's not too bad. I may switch it out to get one with a little better noise characteristics.

I also replaced the cooler on my 4850 with an Accelero Rev. 2. Although the Ice-Q cooler on that was pretty good, my temps dropped 10-15 degrees on my graphics card without a fan.

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Everything is still warmer than I would like, but at least within the realm of reasonableness now.
 
Replaced the CoolerMaster fan with a Noctua NF-p12 at 1100rpm. CPU is just as cool and now silent. The loudest parts in the sytem are now a Scythe 120 fan and the hard drive access noise.

The CoolerMaster fan was ridiculous when throttled up.
 
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