All you Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 owners - Do you still like your case?

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I'm considering picking up a cooler master cosmos 1000. I want to see some opinions of the owners! What do you like about them? What do you not like? Do you plan on keeping your cosmos case for some time to come or are you tired of it?
 
If you plan on not overclocking and don't mind a large heavy case go for it...

I had to get a open side panel for mine since I overclock...... It gets very toasty inside kinda wish I didn't buy it but I learned.

Next build will be a smaller case.
 
yeah see I like to overclock and I like a smaller quiet case.

But the looks - that case is soooo sexy! :)
 
dead zone for air flow at the video card area. the problem is exacerbated in multi card setups. you can buy a windowed side panel with a blow hole for a fan that will solve this problem. i've had the cosmos 1000 since it was first available and its been through 3 rebuilds. i'm in the middle of the fourth rebuild; this time going back to water cooling for the first time since i bought the case.
 
So is the case actually silent? or is the foam just a marketing trick that doesn't serve to make the case quieter?? I know a lot of the noise level depends on the fans, but how quiet is the case?
 
While plain PR BS in most cases foam in Cosmos is starting to be thick enough that such light foam alone could have wider impact to noise but case being quiet is at least as much about design:
Resisting vibrations and soft mounting for HDDs.
Direct noise escape paths must be blocked or noise leaks out at full strength.
(if difference in noise between case at stock and dampened case can be 4-5dB then difference between leaky case and properly dampened quiet design case is well more)
Minimal airflow impedance in front of the fans because obstructions closest to fan blades cause most turbulence.
Simple and controlled laminar airflow through whole case for best utilization of available airflow and preventing no airflow areas. (because of not having cooling holes everywhere)

Design of Cosmos is less than ideal in last two points but compared to general case design trends it's among the better ones and there are only few cases which are better without applying damping mats.
 
E.T. to your last point which cases are better (silent and cooler) in your opinion?
 
Here's what I did..... :D It's not quiet anymore. I had crossfire but fried one of the 4890's so I'm back to one now. :(



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did you cook it due to too much heat accumulation or overclocking it with too much voltage?
 
E.T said:
...Design of Cosmos is less than ideal in last two points but compared to general case design trends it's among the better ones and there are only few cases which are better without applying damping mats.
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Which are those few cases you are referring to, please?
 
Archaea said:
E.T. to your last point which cases are better (silent and cooler) in your opinion?
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Fully 100% accurate comparing is practically impossible to do basing on to just various reviews already because of different makers using often different speed stock fans (airflow is directly proportional to RPM) and even different component configurations having notable effect to "heat flow" but also pictures of design tell lot.
Like because of that very complex and cramped design of HDD cage area Cosmos would have serious troubles in cooling them if you actually filled that cage. (and didn't waste two 5.25" bays for noisy high pressure/speed fan)
Also most exhaust power is on top which is actually quite far away from place where most of the heat is produced and misdirects some airflow.


Lian Li has some nice silencing friendly designs but because of light weight of aluminum they all need good combination mat lining for increasing vibration resistance and acoustic opacity and also less than optimal design choises are present in many cases they claim as quiet designs so like always you have to first check can you trust marketing lines. (applies to all makers)
After fully noise leaking Stacker STC-T01 I wanted quiet design without sacrificing cooling and after five months of studying only A71 was left.


aamsel said:
Which are those few cases you are referring to, please?
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First part of the answer should be obvious:
"Drop parts in" Antec P-serie with its noise containg design and acoustically opaque and vibration resisting multilayer panels... although E-ATX depth P193's side fan can be considered as clear minus because hole is next to CPU and GPU coolers.
Fractal Design R2 is also really nice with real mass damping (good old bitumen) instead of light PR foams and plates for blocking unneeded noise leaks, some have just said that those HDD rubber grommets could be softer.
 
aamsel said:
hoped to use a Lian Li A05N, but it is not going to be quiet
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Design is actually quite quiet with need of damping mats as biggest deficiency.
But default cooling definitely isn't up to performance gaming PC with that lack of airflow in upper case.
Top hole would give high probability of noise leaking out so maybe turning front fna as intake and rear as exhaust and adding BS03/06 would be best shot.
 
I thought there were vents in the bottom of the case. Could you not mount a 120mm in the base and have it blow onto the graphics cards?

My brother has the original cosmos and its amazing. Very high quality and quiet in stock form. He added a couple fans to the top and middle I believe. Looking at the case interior shots, you should be able to mount a fan to the HDD cage blowing toward the GPUs. The bottom fan will blow cool air up and that mid fan should push air straight to the cards. Biggest problem I see is the CPU cooling. No air coming in anywhere near the CPU, all exhaust. Not sure if turning the rear into an intake and using the top as the exhaust would cool CPU temps better or not, I am sure cosmos owners have tried all variations and reported on that someplace on the internet.
 
I used a Cosmos 1000 for about a year at which point I was tired of the heat, and noise needed to reduce it with higher RPM fans. The doors were a pain too, never staying flush and a knock to the desk could cause them to become partially unhinged. It was overall a similar experience to the Antec P180, first revision, which I had a few years back. Hot, noisy to compensate heat, and a pain to work with, especially with more than four drives. Both were great looking cases but I couldn't get past the heat issues without upping RPMs on the fans.
 
blitzkommando said:
I used a Cosmos 1000 for about a year at which point I was tired of the heat, and noise needed to reduce it with higher RPM fans. The doors were a pain too, never staying flush and a knock to the desk could cause them to become partially unhinged. It was overall a similar experience to the Antec P180, first revision, which I had a few years back. Hot, noisy to compensate heat, and a pain to work with, especially with more than four drives. Both were great looking cases but I couldn't get past the heat issues without upping RPMs on the fans.
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Describe the heat issues...what *C?

I'm trying to determine if the guys complaining are the folk who don't want their overclocked CPU to run at 40*C or if you are talking legitimate stability problems because of the heat?

What was your system temp? What was your CPU and its temp?

I don't mind letting my equipment run at near tolerance levels - so long as those levels are not exceed. Everyone talks about hard-drives getting to hot, but there is legimate engineering specs that state hard-drives actually function longer at 40-45 degree C* operating temps. That's considered too hot in a lot of the review articles - when in fact it is ideal. Likewise if my overclocked CPU runs at 66* or 70* C and stays stable - yet remains quiet, I don't care - that's still within spec.
 
Archaea said:
Describe the heat issues...what *C?

I'm trying to determine if the guys complaining are the folk who don't want their overclocked CPU to run at 40*C or if you are talking legitimate stability problems because of the heat?

What was your system temp? What was your CPU and its temp?

I don't mind letting my equipment run at near tolerance levels - so long as those levels are not exceed. Everyone talks about hard-drives getting to hot, but there is legimate engineering specs that state hard-drives actually function longer at 40-45 degree C* operating temps. That's considered too hot in a lot of the review articles - when in fact it is ideal. Likewise if my overclocked CPU runs at 66* or 70* C and stays stable - yet remains quiet, I don't care - that's still within spec.
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i dont know how to run your hd at 45C. my i refuse to let my cpu go past 60C personally hehehe.. cosmos 1000 doesnt have alot of airflow i prefer 100 120mm fans and 240mm fans!
 
I have a cosmos 1000 with a cosmos S black side panel on it (the one with the 200mm fan), but I still have heat issues with my dual GTX 285s. I love the case, so much room to work in, however I think the hard drives get too hot, and I wish there was more airflow to the video cards.

I am going to replace it with an FT02. Hoping my SLi temps will drop while gaming below 95c (they can currently get as high as 103-104, which is when i minimize my game). With 3 monitors, the cards idle at about 75c and 63c respectively (top and bottom 285s in SLi) with default fan speeds, but the top card drops to 60c as well when I turn off dual monitors and the card is allowed to drop its clock speed..
 
I was running a Q6600 at stock with a Zalman CNPS-9500. It ended up idling at around 42C idle and 65C load. Switching to my HAF 932 cut those down to 35C and 54C. GPU at the time was an HD 4870 that would peak out, again at stock, at 92C. After the switch it went down to a much more reasonable 80C.
 
RGSPro said:
I have a cosmos 1000 with a cosmos S black side panel on it (the one with the 200mm fan), but I still have heat issues with my dual GTX 285s.
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Most of the time side fans aren't very beneficial and in the worst case they can actually increase temperatures by screwing laminar airflow.
Instead of just trying to force air through motherboard it would have been better to try having one 12cm fan blowing onto front of the cards and other drawing air from rear end of the cards for creating actual air circulation.

blitzkommando said:
I was running a Q6600 at stock with a Zalman CNPS-9500. It ended up idling at around 42C idle and 65C load. Switching to my HAF 932 cut those down to 35C and 54C
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One user of Cosmos reported 10C CPU load temp drop after making airflow quide which forced top fans to draw air from above CPU heatsinks instead of short circuiting airflow. I don't remember did he have passive heatsink without fan but with that much intake limited airflow top fans are drawing that air to wrong place.
(you can have as much airflow as you want but still have cooling problems if that airflow doesn't go past components needing cooling)
 
I have a Cosmos 1000, and while it's a pretty case, the airflow is poor and the hard drive cages are worthless. There is only one intake fan situated near the bottom of the case! Hello! I can't believe I bought it based solely on the MaximumPC Dream Machine recommendation.
 
Thug Esquire said:
I have a Cosmos 1000, and while it's a pretty case, the airflow is poor and the hard drive cages are worthless. There is only one intake fan situated near the bottom of the case! Hello! I can't believe I bought it based solely on the MaximumPC Dream Machine recommendation.
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I built a computer for a customer at Fry's when I was working in their tech department, and after I finished building his I instantly went over and purchased a Cosmos 1000 for myself it impressed me so much. I love the case, but with the amount of hard drives and an SLi setup in mine, the cooling is ridiculously insufficient. That and the 3 fans venting air from the case means its gonna get dusty inside and around the non-air-intake parts of the case, that and make it harder for the video card's coolers to do their job sufficiently.
 
Thug Esquire said:
can't believe I bought it based solely on the MaximumPC Dream Machine recommendation.
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As rule look reviews for pictures for "stripping case to parts" and seeing how it is really made and consider text as optional filler most of the time taken from lines of marketing department.

Only real way to do case comparison basing to reviews is this:
1. Think what kind of case and what features you want and which of them are must and which optional.
2. Find out what kind of design details wanted features need to actually work, especially take note that some features are mutually exclusive (like cheese grater case leaking noise out always) and correct lisf made in point 1.
3. Do a list of cases looking interesting.
4. Start googling for finding as many reviews per case as possible and add links to notes under every case. Arranging links basing to how good pics review has is recommended.
5. Now start going through those pics for finding out design details and if missing something from must have list drop that case to "failed" category and arrange rest to some kind order from best to worst.
6. Go over those cases left for second time and really think can design choises/features work like they appear to do at first glance. (lots of "buried dogs" like we say in Finland)

After couple months of this process you're starting to get to somewhere.
 
My main commplaint is that it weighs a ton and is hard to move. Not a problem if don't LAN often though
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It's actually not too bad for a LAN because of the handles it has. I took it to a few myself, didn't mind the weight too much. It's all about the crazy heat that builds up inside it.
 
Hey if anyone wants a set of cosmos 1010 case side panel so they can have a 120mm fan on the side panel (without it looking ghetto) of their existing cosmos 1000 I have a set of perfect cosmos 1010 side panels for sale that fit the cosmos 1000, and cosmos s perfectly.


http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1605490

BTW - I've not had heat problems at all with this case, so I'm not sure what all the fuss was about. This Cosmos 1010, I currently own is by far the best case I've ever owned out of the dozen or so I've tried. It's so well made --- oozes quality. Just downright sexy!
 
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I still love mine - but it does get hot with two graphics cards I've figured out. Up till now I've been perfectly fine with a single graphics card

I've had the 460 and most recently the 560ti in the case with no problem.

Recently I bought a second 560ti and the case gets too hot to really run both of these cards unfortunately without some modification.

I'm going to play with stuff a bit but I have an I7-920 at 4.0ghz, three hard-drives, and two gtx560ti cards and it gets very hot.
 
See this ;)

Without removing the hard drive cage, you can probably fit a 180 or 200mm fan on the bottom. A slim 120mm fan would also probably fit under the hard drive cage.
 
Archaea said:
I still love mine - but it does get hot with two graphics cards I've figured out. Up till now I've been perfectly fine with a single graphics card

I've had the 460 and most recently the 560ti in the case with no problem.

Recently I bought a second 560ti and the case gets too hot to really run both of these cards unfortunately without some modification.

I'm going to play with stuff a bit but I have an I7-920 at 4.0ghz, three hard-drives, and two gtx560ti cards and it gets very hot.
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yeah this case is no good for two GTX 560TI cards and my 4.0ghz processor. I just finished a hour dirt 2 session and my hard-drives are at 61*C and my top video card was at 100*C, bottom at 77* and my case temp system/system temp was at 55* and my CPU was at 80* and my VREG was at 82*. Nothing crashed - but I shudder a bit to think of these temps. There just insn't enough airflow to keep two cards running in SLI cool. I never had these problems with a single GTX460 or GTX560TI card, but with two - it's an oven.


I think I'm going to buy a single GTX 670 or 680 card and call it a day. This case works fine for single cards!
 
I sold off my two GTX 560 TI cards and bought a single GTX 670 card. The Cooler Master Cosmos 1010 case is running 'cool' again. :p
 
Archaea said:
yeah this case is no good for two GTX 560TI cards and my 4.0ghz processor. I just finished a hour dirt 2 session and my hard-drives are at 61*C and my top video card was at 100*C, bottom at 77* and my case temp system/system temp was at 55* and my CPU was at 80* and my VREG was at 82*. Nothing crashed - but I shudder a bit to think of these temps. There just insn't enough airflow to keep two cards running in SLI cool. I never had these problems with a single GTX460 or GTX560TI card, but with two - it's an oven.


I think I'm going to buy a single GTX 670 or 680 card and call it a day. This case works fine for single cards!
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I thought I'd bump this old thread to say I'm happily running two Fury X cards in crossfire in my Cosmos 1010 case these days with a H80i v2 CPU cooler and I have NO heat problems. Exhausting the heat out of the case makes all the difference when you use a closed loop cooler. The fury x cards both have the closed loop cooler -- they are mounted to the top of the case, and the h80i v2 is mounted to the rear of the case. I have a standard 120mm led fan blowing in the bottom. My hard-drive and motherboard temps with this setup under gaming load top out at about 37* OH -- AND I'm running my CPU at 4.5Ghz on an overclock. That's a HUGE difference compared to my old experience with those GTI 560TI cards that required half the power draw of the Fury X. Same case. I love this case. I still plan to keep it for a long time to come. Still my favorite looking computer case I've ever seen.
 
Archaea said:
I thought I'd bump this old thread to say I'm happily running two Fury X cards in crossfire in my Cosmos 1010 case these days with a H80i v2 CPU cooler and I have NO heat problems. Exhausting the heat out of the case makes all the difference when you use a closed loop cooler. The fury x cards both have the closed loop cooler -- they are mounted to the top of the case, and the h80i v2 is mounted to the rear of the case. I have a standard 120mm led fan blowing in the bottom. My hard-drive and motherboard temps with this setup under gaming load top out at about 37* OH -- AND I'm running my CPU at 4.5Ghz on an overclock. That's a HUGE difference compared to my old experience with those GTI 560TI cards that required half the power draw of the Fury X. Same case. I love this case. I still plan to keep it for a long time to come. Still my favorite looking computer case I've ever seen.
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Funny after this post in May, in July 2017 I got a great deal on a new PC and couldn’t pass it up so I swapped cases to a Thermaltake P3. A year and a half later (now) I miss the old Cooler Master Cosmos case so I’m thinking of going back. I miss my optical drive convienience and a enclosed case has less dust. I’ve been looking at new cases and can’t find anything of the build quality that Cooler Master possessed. The only thing stopping me is no USB 3 ports on the front. Looks like they stopped making replacement parts years ago. I can probably get some USB 3 ports in a drive bay.
 
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