Alienware expensive??

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Xeneize

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I keep hearing that.. can someone here build this system for less than $3800?? I sware I tried I can't do it to.

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-57 with HyperTransport Technology
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2
Windows Media Center Enhancements: Media Center Remote Control
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support with Onsite Service
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 510 Express 650 Watt peak power
Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case
Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Liquid Cooling with AlienIce™ 2.0 Video Cooling System
Motherboard: Alienware® nForce™4 SLI™ ASUS with PCI Express
Graphics Processor: Dual NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7800 GTX KO ACS PCI-E 256MB DDR3 with SLI
Memory: 2GB Ultra Low-Latency Dual Channel DDR PC-3200 at 333MHz - 4 x 512MB
System Drive: Extreme Performance - Serial ATA RAID 0 - 148GB (74GB x 2) Serial ATA 10,000 RPM w/16MB Cache
Storage Drive: Additional Storage Drive - 160GB Serial ATA 7200 RPM w/8MB Cache
Primary CDR-W 52x Plextor Drive with Software DVD Decoder
Secondary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS High Definition 7.1 Surround Firewire (IEEE® 1394)
Floppy Drive: 3.5" 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive - Black
Network Connection: Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
Monitor: No Monitor
Keyboard: Free Alienware® Microsoft® Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse: Free Alienware® Microsoft® Mouse
Optional Mouse: Logitech® MX™1000 Laser Cordless Mouse
USB Lighted Cables: 15' USB 2.0 Cable with Red LEDs
 
AMD FX57 - $1011
Windows XP - $146
Remote - $35
PCPnC 510 - $220
Chenming case - $80 (uses same base chassis as the Alienware case)
Swiftech H2O Cooler - $180
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium - $175
eVGA 7800GTX KO (2) - $1160
Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 512MBx4 - $400

That right there comes out at $3400. Add the other stuff I didn't do and it's well over $3800.

What was the point of this again? I smell a flame war...

EDIT: Now I must know what you are getting at. The system you listed goes for over $4400 on Alienware's site.
 
sac_tagg said:
Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 512MBx4 - $400
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Why the hell 4 sticks of 512s? Thats a bad idea. One because XMS is so damn overpriced, second being you would have to trash one if you ever needed to upgrade. Go with the OCZ platinum for slightly over half the price, same performance, and saves some dimm slots.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820227210

Also to the original poster: At this point, you get your moneys worth buying the X2 4800. Its over 200 bucks less, and some people on this forum say its supposedly possible to OC the 4800 to FX57 speeds. Thats TWO whopping FX57s!
 
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 2.8 GHz Socket 939 1MB L2 Cache (Retail Box) 1279
Microsoft Remote Control w/ Receiver for Windows XP Media Center 49
Silverstone SST-ST65ZF 650W nVidia Certified SLI PSU 195
Asus Vento 3600 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower w/Front USB 2.0 x 4 + Audio x 2 (W/O PSU) 183
Kingwin Aquastar AS-3000 Liquid Cooling System 158
Asus A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI 2x PCI Express x16, Dual-Ch DDR400, Dual Gb LAN, SATA 3Gb/s, Dual RAID, 8-Ch Audio, Dual PCI-E 214
Asus Extreme N7800GTX/2DHTV GeForce 7800 GTX 256 MB DDR3 SLI Ready PCI-Express Dual DVI-I VIVO x2 1378
Corsair XMS TWINX Matched Pairs XMS3200 DDR400 2x512MB 184-pin DIMM (TWINX1024-3200XL) x2 504
Western Digital Raptor Enterprise SATA (WD740GD) 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Buffer (OEM) x2 440
Western Digital Caviar SATA (WD1600JD) 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Buffer (OEM) 100
LG (GCE-8525B) 52X32X52X CD-RW Drive (Black) w/ SuperLink (OEM) 26.99
Benq DW1625 16X DVD+/-RW With Light Scribe Technology (Black/OEM) 106.99
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS w/ 24-bit Advanced HD, 7.1-channel, 108dB SNR (OEM) 79.99
Panasonic 1.44 Floppy Disk Drive (Black) 12.99
Microsoft (S51-00018) Wireless Optical Desktop Elite Executive Edition 59.99

All in Canadian pricing equalling to: $4566.97

USD: $ 3906.39

-The WC system I included is probably better.
-You don't need that first cd-rom drive, so if I took it out, I could save you money.
-you're paying for the keyboard/mouse but they're amazing
-Thats the best Asus SLI mobo available
-I think the ram I included is probably better too.
-As far as the graphic cards, I'm assuming that they're using the Asus versions...

edit: and don't forget about the crazy psu i've included, lol. Also, If you buy your parts from diffferent sources, you'll get even cheaper. Someone just posted a price on the fx-57 for a couple hundred cheaper.
 
The point of this post is to try and NOT buy Alienware, unfortunately I'm left with little options as I have a 20% off coupon and it will come down to $3800 with all those parts mentioned.

The memory is Corsair XMS and the Motherboard is the regular SLI, not really concerned as the deluxe and premium really don't add anything I would use.

To the above poster.... the video cards are eVga which are manufactured OC versions of the regular GTX... with both runing SLI anything less than an FX57 will bottleneck both vid cards... You don't really need X2 for single threaded.
 
Xeneize said:
The point of this post is to try and NOT buy Alienware, unfortunately I'm left with little options as I have a 20% off coupon and it will come down to $3800 with all those parts mentioned.

The memory is Corsair XMS and the Motherboard is the regular SLI, not really concerned as the deluxe and premium really don't add anything I would use.

To the above poster.... the video cards are eVga which are manufactured OC versions of the regular GTX... with both runing SLI anything less than an FX57 will bottleneck both vid cards... You don't really need X2 for single threaded.
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WRONG. Games are GPU bottlenecked nowadays. A Venice at 2.2ghz can run even FEAR at the same fps as an identical rig with an FX-57 in it.

Edit: And I bet you could even get an X2 3800+ to FX-57 speeds with water cooling. Or a Venice 3200+ (about half of em, and some 3000+s too).
 
Actually ... I hate to disagree.. when you have such high GPU your CPU becomes a bottleneck thats what i meant to say.... If you gonna invest in GTX SLI you better get an FX57 anything less is crippling your CPU.
 
Xeneize said:
Actually ... I hate to disagree.. when you have such high GPU your CPU becomes a bottleneck thats what i meant to say.... If you gonna invest in GTX SLI you better get an FX57 anything less is crippling your CPU.
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Not at all. If you look at actual benchmarks, you'd find that benchmark scores are very close with each CPU from the FX-55 down to the 3200+. Lower than that, and yes, you'd have a point. There is a difference between the 3500+ and the 3200+, but past that the difference becomes almost unnoticable. I'd bet you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference in most cases without benchmarks to look at.

People use the term "bottleneck" all to often without really knowing how to apply it. Any A64 CPU is worthy of a high end card for gaming. Athlon FX-57's are for those who want the extra 5% it offers over a 3500+ or other processor, and have the money to burn on a hobby they enjoy. However the need for such a CPU is drastically overstated.
 
Also, if you turn up the eye candy then even a high end card can become a bottleneck on a low end system.
 
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