Air Show: Selfridge AFB, MI

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fixxxer

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All shot with Canon 300D and Sigma 70-200 F2.8.

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Pretty awesome, nicely captured. The Blue Angels are amazing, they where doing a show at FireIsland near me, and when they went to fly back to the airport they scared the crap out of me becuase they were so loud.
 
ill hafta start going to the airshows at the air force base near me again...i loved those as a kid!

those are some great shots... nice and clear

how far away from you were they (estimate)

i love the 3rd shot especially :D
 
Thanks for the comments. I'd guess that most of the aircraft came within a couple hundred yards of the crowd - I was right up front by the fence.

Here's a few more.

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I was there on saturday with all the cops at the end of the runway... I even got pics of our tax dollars hard at work (cops from diffrent counties and all over the state, rofls).
 
I wanted to go, but I had to fly out of town on Saturday.

My suggestions is to use a little slower shutter speed and pan with the planes to give them the look of motion. Right now most of them look frozen in mid air and they don't really give the impression of speed.
 
i agree for the most part on the slower shutter speed.....cept on the prop driven planes....those look cool when the prop is just stopped in mid air and you see a trail of smoke behind it...looks like it was shot and and had the engine cut out

it gives you an eerie mid war feeling
 
Two questions to those of you who recommend slower shutter speeds.

1.) What exactly is going to give the appearance of "speed"? In most of the photos the background is completely blue, or blue with some clouds that are 8,000-12,000 feet up in the sky. Therefore, no background blur is going to occur regardless of how slow the shutter speed is (unless you are recommending 1+ second, which I certainly hope not.)

2.) Since you are making such a recommendation, I'm assuming you have experience shooting objects that are traveling at 400+ mph. Yes? If so, please post examples you've taken at airshows.

Thanks in advance.

BTW: I know how to pan.

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fixxxer said:
Two questions to those of you who recommend slower shutter speeds.

1.) What exactly is going to give the appearance of "speed"? In most of the photos the background is completely blue, or blue with some clouds that are 8,000-12,000 feet up in the sky. Therefore, no background blur is going to occur regardless of how slow the shutter speed is (unless you are recommending 1+ second, which I certainly hope not.)

2.) Since you are making such a recommendation, I'm assuming you have experience shooting objects that are traveling at 400+ mph. Yes? If so, please post examples you've taken at airshows.

Thanks in advance.

BTW: I know how to pan.
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Ahh... yes...

You post pictures presumably looking for feedback, and then get upset when you get feedback that isn't all positive. If you only want to get a bunch of pats on the back and ata-boys, then maybe you should say so in your post. To your points...

1) The planes may be moving against a blue sky, but oddly we are still able to tell you used a fast shutter speed.

2) I don't have to post an example of pictures I've taken at an airshow to make my opinion valid. Firsthand experience is not necessary to know what makes a good picture. Do you think all art critics are expert painters?
 
Shutter speed whatever, those are some great looking photographs. Any of those available in a higher res?
 
Stereodude said:
Ahh... yes...

You post pictures presumably looking for feedback, and then get upset when you get feedback that isn't all positive. If you only want to get a bunch of pats on the back and ata-boys, then maybe you should say so in your post. To your points...

1) The planes may be moving against a blue sky, but oddly we are still able to tell you used a fast shutter speed.

2) I don't have to post an example of pictures I've taken at an airshow to make my opinion valid. Firsthand experience is not necessary to know what makes a good picture. Do you think all art critics are expert painters?
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Upset? How exactly did I get upset? I would simply like some clarification. Of course you can tell I used a fast shutter speed - why? Because the photos are sharp and not blurry - how is that odd? That seems more like common sense to me.

Until you post an example so I can decide what looks "better" for myself, I'll disregard your advice. In fact, I have yet to ever see a photo taken at an airshow in the manner that you describe. But I'm open to new techniques, which is why an example with EXIF data would help.

jrbryner: Which would you like high-res copies of?
 
nweibley said:
I'm all for the slower shutter speed suggestion... here is an example of why:

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And what shutter speed is that at? I'd be willing to bet its over 1/1000 sec.

Examples:
@ 1/2500 sec
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@ 1/1000 sec

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@ 1/1250 sec

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Need I go on?
 
Did I say you need to do a bulb shot for 45 seconds?

No. I said you need to increase your shutter speed. I'm willing to bet with that nice fast lens of yours you were shooting a bit faster than 1/1000s ... it would not suprise me if your shots were 1/4000s. There is an appreciable difference between the two, beleive it or not. Saying you need to slow down your shutter speed in no way implies you need to drop it 4 or 5 stops.

FYI: Out of the shots you posted, ironically the 1/1000s looks the best to my eye.
 
nweibley said:
I'm all for the slower shutter speed suggestion...
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nweibley said:
No. I said you need to increase your shutter speed. .
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Care to explain those two comments?

And actually, ALL of the shots I posted were taken at speeds of 1/1000 to 1/1500......
 
Stereodude said:
It doesn't take Ansel Adams to figure out he meant in the second comment to increase the exposure time.
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Thank you! I'm not exactly performing brain surgery at 2 am... forgive me, it was a long day.

Of course I meant that you should increase your exposure time.
 
Dude the pictures look sharp and clean... thats the way I like it.


If you dont like it, drive up here and take your own damn pics :)
 
Ockie said:
Dude the pictures look sharp and clean... thats the way I like it.


If you dont like it, drive up here and take your own damn pics :)
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MacDill AFB is down here in Tampa, so I'll save myself the gas money thankyouverymuch. :p
 
Awsome, I need a camera like that, because I always miss the jets at MacDill. :p My digital camera sucks, takes forever to take a pic. Awsome pics!
 
nweibley said:
Have you a circular polarizer on your lense(s)?
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Not for these shots. The only filter on the lens at the time was a Hoya Super HMC UV/Haze filter.

I typically only use a polarizer when shooting landscape/waterscape scenes.
 
fixxxer said:
Not for these shots. The only filter on the lens at the time was a Hoya Super HMC UV/Haze filter.

I typically only use a polarizer when shooting landscape/waterscape scenes.
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I like the look of the clouds much more in those last two shots, but I wonder if a circular polarizer would have gotten you a nice deeper more contrasty sky...

Either way those last two are my favorite.
 
nweibley said:
I like the look of the clouds much more in those last two shots, but I wonder if a circular polarizer would have gotten you a nice deeper more contrasty sky...

Either way those last two are my favorite.
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Perhaps, but a c-pol also would have given him two stops less of light. Dunno if he could have "stopped" at jet at 1/250th

Nice pics BTW
 
PS-RagE said:
Perhaps, but a c-pol also would have given him two stops less of light. Dunno if he could have "stopped" at jet at 1/250th

Nice pics BTW
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It all depends on what kind of lens and aperture / ISO those pics were taken at. Since we don't have exif we can only speculate, but I am willing to bet with a few tweaks he could have stopped the jet with a c-pol.
 
mgw24 said:
what metering mode did you use?
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5/21/2005 4:14:19 PM
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Aperture-Priority AE
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omg that's extreme...oh , i see, he / she is strapped in.

lol if they weren't, hell even though they are..that's just awesome.
 
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