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Air in the Radiator

notoriousformula

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hi all, I recently got Wcing.. first here are my WCing setup specs:

Swiftech MCW-6002
Eheim 1250
Critcool Clear Vertical res.
D-Tek 120Jr heatercore/ Radiator.
ClearFlex60 tubing
Distilled water with 20:1 Zerex coolant solution.

now the system specs:

P4 2.6Ghz @ 3.2Ghz
Asus P4P800 DLX

Now the question regarding air in the radiator. My setup is running perfectly fine.. idles =25C, Loads = 29-30C, ambients = 23-24C.. I did a fine bleeding/filling job, but I still get air bubbles in my setup.. Currently my Radiator/Pump/Rservoir are lying outside my case, when i try to tilt the Radiator, a suden gush of air comes out of it towards the reservoir? where did this air come from? Is there some point/barb which is lose and needs extra teflon?

This air goes away(I think it collects in the radiator) after few hours.. but comes again once in a while.. what should i do? Redo my reservoir? or fill and bleed the whole setup all over again?

thanks.
 
is your radiator standing upright? or down on the floor? I would try tilting it up so the opening of the barbs are the highest point of the system, at least while you bleed. Maybe rotate it slowly to get the air out?
 
nothing's loose on your system, just a lot of air caught in the rad. it's a common problem. just keep tilting it in all directions until you can't get any more air out of it. also try tapping or shaking it.

miro
 
Most likely, you just have a lot of air in your rad in the first place, but I'll cover the other possibility first. If you have a really turbulent water flow that creates bubbles, it could be sending air straight back into the rad after being bled. I know that once I built my own res out of a small bottle, but the intake would flow up against the side and create a bunch of bubbles, so that didn't work. See if you have a problem like that, it's always possible.

You probably just need to bleed better. Shake your rad around, put it upside down, twist it, do a bunch of crazy stuff with it while water is going through and all the bubbles should get out eventually.
 
would Deadlierchair's point be overcome by having a reservoir input line that is below the water level and adapted to minimize "splashing?"
 
HiTech-Hate said:
what if you cant shake your rad lol? Im assuming that over time they will just go away?

That is possible, but usually without being shaken out or bumped much they won't come out. If you have one that is mounted wierdly, I would get it running without mounting it, shake it around and get the air out, shut things down, then install it. You could also fill it up completely outside your case, with the two inlet and outlet tubes on, with the tubes somehow clamped, but that might not work so well. Use your imagination :)


black_b[ said:
x]would Deadlierchair's point be overcome by having a reservoir input line that is below the water level and adapted to minimize "splashing?"

Mine was actually below the water line, but the flow was so high that it splashed the water around still. You could probably keep it below the water line to minimize splashing, that's how it is in my bay resevoir, and that works quite well.
 
I ask because i cant take my rad out of my case now, its in there for good ... permanent. The first fill I took care to ensure all air bubbles were out, but i've since drained and refilled my system (I wanted to lap CPU block), and now the rad will never be coming out of this case.
 
long story ....

its in the top of a lian li pc 65B, it took FOREVER to jam that bitch in there, and then I had to somehow 'mount it' so that when I sat my PC up it wouldnt just fall down onto the mobo. Im not a master fabricator by any means, so what I did was I bought two door hinges, glued them into a 90 degree fixed hinge, put one end of the hinge under the rad, the other end on the side of the case and glued them there. Very ghetto I know, but it doesn tlook bad, and it works.
 
I kinda had the same prob with my rad...ended up tilting the heck out of my case (even upside down :eek: ) and it worked!! Haven't had a problem since... ;)
 
I'm currently building an above-case-radiator water cooling system with a Chevelle heatercore (this is one big mofo) and the thing I'm worried about is having to move the case in lots of directions to get all the air out. I might pre-bleed it off of the system then clamp the hoses and install it with the case upside down so there wouldn't be much water leakage.
 
You could always just hold your entire PC and shake it around, just only have the watercooling running, hard drives don't like to bounce...
 
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