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Ageia is acquired

apparently Ageia have been angling for this for ages, lets just hope whoever has bought the company doesn't do a Creative and kill the tech, we all remember what happened to Aureal.
 
Take anything that you read on Fudzilla with a grain of salt as they are known to post false information. Find me another source that doesn't quote or link Fudzilla and I might then believe this to be true.
 
I checked and could not get anyone "in the biz" to comment either on or off the record. We will see.
 
This isn't a threadcrap...I just have to wonder why anyone would buy Ageia...:confused: As far as I know, they are a company that produces stuff that people don't buy, and don't have a use for. Maybe AMD saw another bright opportunity:p
 
Jay_oasis said:
I would say its nVidia....
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Seconded.

Intel has HavokFX, AMD is pushing GPU physics, nVidia wants to ensure a competitive offering to stay competitive. I'd also guess that they'll pick up a CPU manufacturer somewhere along the way, maybe buy some major stock in IBM or even VIA... With ATI/AMD and soon Intel offering top-to-bottom packages, nVidia is the underdog unless they can offer a complete Centrino/VIIV/Live!-like bundle including CPU, chipset, and graphics.
 
Posted on guru3d news today... Not sure why guru3d listed fudzilla as a source...


" So who bought Ageia?
Posted by Watcher, January 22, 2008 - 2:33 PM 0 Comments

An industry source has confirmed that Ageia has been acquired. We don’t know who the buyer is, but we can confirm that it is not AMD. Fudzilla suspects Intel or Nvidia, but we still don’t know. Maybe is a third player, after all.

Time will tell .."
 
Pfft, what are you people like? A sniff Ageia could go down, even if it is a site called Fudzilla, and you’re all over it talking like it has been confirmed. I know the anti Ageia crowed has been desperate since Havok FX snuffed it but come on, people have been playing with the idea of Ageia getting bought up since the day it inconveniently threatened their hardware upgrade list. Don’t you think with so many people begging for it to happen, sooner or later a site that thrives on attracting hits with exciting rumours will post about it?

Why do I get the feeling this rumour will travel around the web faster than the Intel purchase of Havok and Havok FX going down? I still get people arguing Havok FX over the PPU at me, but it wasn’t even two days before I saw this ‘news’ on almost every tech site I frequent.

Whatever the case lets just hope competition is sustained shall we? As much as I know people would love multi core/GPU physics to dominate this one, the only company actually releasing the physics they have promised helps keep things moving.

[update]

Looks like the rumour got shot down.
 
According to an undisclosed source, god herself uses PhysX, yes god is a female...
 
Contrary to what you might think, due to Ageia products being marketed to enthusiasts, nobody really gives a shit.

This is brought to you by the nobody really gives a shit about ageia products anymore because they're useless and overpriced department, otherwise known as the norgasaapabtuaopd.

Seriously though, why is this even a forum section anymore? Does anyone beyond the unfortunate people who got suckered into buying one of these things care about them anymore? This should be a subset of general hardware or something.
 
[21CW]killerofall;1031953544 said:
Take anything that you read on Fudzilla with a grain of salt as they are known to post false information. Find me another source that doesn't quote or link Fudzilla and I might then believe this to be true.
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qft. This Faud guy posts a lot of Bull.
 
It was me
I bought it :D

We will soon be making changes cuz you guys just arent buying them.

We will rename them 'leet ubertastic Fatal1ty physyx cards' and charge $ 1000/ea.

They will be 16-1/2" long.

Require their own 500w power supply.

They will have 4 fans that move 1CFM of air but screech at 95db

and they can be run SLI, but only 4 cards at once, for a guaranteed minimum increase of 2 fps.
 
Ageia need to lower their price card the card, get more game developers to support their tech, and actually show that there is a worth while FPS increase.

Kinda feel that Ageia and the Killer Inc guys are in the same boat. Too expensive of a product for very little gain.

I say $50 is the sweet spot.
 
Deviationer said:
Ageia need to lower their price card the card, get more game developers to support their tech, and actually show that there is a worth while FPS increase.

Kinda feel that Ageia and the Killer Inc guys are in the same boat. Too expensive of a product for very little gain.

I say $50 is the sweet spot.
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What is it with people in the USA and complaining about prices when they have it cheaper than most people?

PPU is $180+ in the UK, how can you possibly complain about <$120? Ageia would go bankrupt at $50.
 
AnnoyedDragon said:
What is it with people in the USA and complaining about prices when they have it cheaper than most people?

PPU is $180+ in the UK, how can you possibly complain about <$120? Ageia would go bankrupt at $50.
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It's not about price. It's about value. The Physx either needs more software support or a cheaper price to be worth buying.
 
nigerian_businessman said:
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Speak for yourself; if &#8216;you&#8217; personally have a problem with the PPU say so and explain yourself, don&#8217;t justify your personal stance by taking it upon yourself to speak on everyone else&#8217;s behalf. Obviously there &#8216;are&#8217; people who give a shit; enough people to keep Ageia in business this long and for a supporting community to form, people who prefer the idea of dedicated solutions over hybrid graphics cards and multi core processors.

Ageia did not get bought up, as much as I am sure this bothers you it is a reality you&#8217;re going to have to deal with.

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SockMan! said:
It's not about price. It's about value. The Physx either needs more software support or a cheaper price to be worth buying.
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This isn&#8217;t as simple as getting the market to accept the GPU, a game that utilises a PPU for advanced physics affects cannot scale down detail like a GPU does with graphics, making it unplayable for none PPU users. With graphics they can change it if you don&#8217;t have a GPU and have no affect on the game outside of appearance.

The same issue applies to all physics solutions, whether CPU or GPU.

Ageia is currently working on a solution to many of the PPUs problems with APEX, but it is understandable it is a difficult task to push the PPU as a physics standard. Especially with people who want to PPU to bugger off because its existence is a 'inconvenience' to the cushy upgrade paths PC users have become used to. If you ask me the price is just fine and should stay as it is, people keep lowering the price they said they would consider adoption because they never thought it would reach <£100 and still be around. The only focus of Ageia should be in value as you said, it's a new year so there is plenty of time ahead to support new games.
 
AnnoyedDragon said:
Speak for yourself; if &#8216;you&#8217; personally have a problem with the PPU say so and explain yourself, don&#8217;t justify your personal stance by taking it upon yourself to speak on everyone else&#8217;s behalf. Obviously there &#8216;are&#8217; people who give a shit; enough people to keep Ageia in business this long and for a supporting community to form, people who prefer the idea of dedicated solutions over hybrid graphics cards and multi core processors.

Ageia did not get bought up, as much as I am sure this bothers you it is a reality you&#8217;re going to have to deal with.
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I don't have a problem with the PPU in theory, I have a problem with it in practice. The only people who really care about PPU are people who bought in to the hype. The technology isn't prominently featured in mainstream games except for in software, where the dedicated solutions offer little advantage other than another thing to list in your signature.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that PPU and Physics processors are a niche of a niche market, and I don't understand why there's a forum for them or why they even deserve front page attention. They have had about as much impact on gaming as infinium labs and duke nukem forever.

Edit: There are 5 threads that have been active this month in this forum. 11 since the start of December. Having this forum here isn't really hurting anything, but it just seems rather pointless given the level of activity and attention that it receives.
 
DarkStar02 said:
EA Games bought out Ageia for a patch to make Crysis performance better. Here's the video showing the before and after with the ppu card in crysis.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RSsJ19sy3JI
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Wow. I stand corrected. PPU is the way of the future. If this forum can continue to provide shining examples of PPU usage such as this, then I'll be checking in a lot more often. I have to get myself one of these cards!
 
R3MF said:
Somone has bought Ageia:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5260&Itemid=1
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LOL

Ageia officially denied it on 1/22. Next time, consider your source.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multim...ogies_Denies_Its_Takeover_by_Third_Party.html

Ageia Technologies Denies Its Takeover by Third-Party.
Developer of Physics Accelerators Claims It Is Still Independent
[ 01/22/2008 | 01:17 PM ]
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Currently Ageia is owned by a group of investors, including Apex Venture Partners, BA Venture Partners, HIG Ventures, Granite Global Ventures, CID Equity Partners, and VentureTech Alliance. Typically such companies are interested in either selling their startups to others, or making them public. However, this time Ageia denies any ownership change.

“We have no information about [the acquisition of Ageia]. There have been no changes [in the structure of investors]. As you know this kind of rumors pops up from time to time…” said Dan Forster, a spokesperson for Ageia Technologies.
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I bet the investors would like to have a way out though, and wouldn't be surprised if there really is a sale to a 3rd party in the future. :p The product has flopped.
 
RoffleCopter said:
I'm not surprised, but I see this as a good thing. PPU on the graphics card would certainly increase the number of people with it in their systems, so if this all pans out we'll have the kind of physics as shown on Ageia's tech demos.
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It is not going to be a PPU on a graphics card, Nvidia is just going to push the same unsupported solution they whipped up when Ageia first released the PPU.

The purchase was most likely a kill purchase like with Intel and Havok, plus getting all those parallel processor physics trained staff is a added bonus.
 
AnnoyedDragon said:
It is not going to be a PPU on a graphics card, Nvidia is just going to push the same unsupported solution they whipped up when Ageia first released the PPU.

The purchase was most likely a kill purchase like with Intel and Havok, plus getting all those parallel processor physics trained staff is a added bonus.
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Exactly, we do not know exactly how they are going to be implementing Ageia's technology, if at all. They may just want to bolster their R&D on the subject, and Ageia's existing tech is getting tossed.
 
Has Kyle commented on this yet? I've kind of been waiting to hear his thoughts on this given his initial stand and all....
 
Atech said:
Well it's NVIDIA now, not AGEIA...so it's gotta be good...right? :p
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It is amazing how something as small as a name can impact a product. In the time I have been in active discussion on the PPU; one of the things that kept appearing was people who had no knowledge on any of the available solutions siding with Havok/Nvidia, simply because the names are familiar.

Two years ago, who was Ageia? Most people still see them as cons trying to force a unneeded product on consumers, they were new and hence untrustworthy. Now Nvidia will be using the PhysX API for GPU physics, I imagine public image of the engine is going change radically.
 
AnnoyedDragon said:
It is amazing how something as small as a name can impact a product. In the time I have been in active discussion on the PPU; one of the things that kept appearing was people who had no knowledge on any of the available solutions siding with Havok/Nvidia, simply because the names are familiar.

Two years ago, who was Ageia? Most people still see them as cons trying to force a unneeded product on consumers, they were new and hence untrustworthy. Now Nvidia will be using the PhysX API for GPU physics, I imagine public image of the engine is going change radically.
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Yup, now the PR-spin can begin..and we can look at the conversion of anti-PPU people now haling "NVIDIA's" PPU as the next best thing since sliced bread...

.oO(I bet they are sorry that AGEIA got bourght and didn't went bankrupt ;) )
 
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