Advice for First TFT

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hello friends :)

Its being long time I been fan of CRT, now I am planning to have my first TFT ( 17'-19' ).
Need basically for playing hardcore games and 3D applications.

I read the sticky for TFT, but got confused :confused:.
Please suggest some nice monitor.... Thanks
 
Budget?

Size?

Are you looking for very high (or precise) color accuracy, or something that's looks good to the average consumer?

Do you care if color shifts when you move your head (i.e. viewing angles)?

Example of viewing angles:

1. TN panel - 23.6" Asus VK246H (I have this monitor. Cheap, about $240):
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2009/review-asus-vk246h-part6.html#Viewing

asus-vk246h-blickwinkel.jpg


2. S-PVA panel - 24" Dell 2408WFP (roughly $450 when on sale)
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2009/review-dell-2408wfp-part8.html#Viewing

dell_2408wfp_rev_a01_blickwinkel.jpg


3. IPS panel - 26" NEC LCD2690WUXi (I also have this monitor. Expensive, roughly $1,200)
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2007/review-nec-lcd2690wuxi-part10.html

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I am looking for 17-19' screen at $250. I want to play latest games well and run 3D applications nicely as well.
 
All of the 17"-19" LCDs are pretty much the same mediocre office monitors with little to distinguish between them, and suck for gaming. The gamer monitors nowadays are 22".

Since the Dell 2209WA is out of production until late this year, the best $250 gaming monitor is undoubtedly the LG L227WTG-PF, which is on sale at Best Buy for $250, here. You may be able to find one at your local Best Buy, which is the best way to go in case you need to return it. This monitor has 0 input lag. No 17" or 19" monitor will be even close to this in quality or speed.

When setting it up, run through the lagom.nl LCD Tests, particularly the Sharpness setting.
 
JaguarSKX, very nice photo comparison of viewing angles of different panel types.

This should be stickied.
 
^^^

Would be better if all three monitors showed the same image, but the monitors were reviewed at different times.
 
Apparently you don't have any experience with widescreen LCDs. Your minimum size should be 22". This is because widescreen monitors are SHORTER than equivalent 4:3 ratio CRTs. 22" appears to be the current sweetspot for performance/price of LCDs, however 24" will be there soon enough.
 
If you can get one, the Dell 2209WA is an excellent gaming screen offering low input lag, good response time, and the unique ability to do 1680x1050 @ 75hz over DVI.

It is an e-IPS screen offering excellent viewing angles and sRGB color gamut which does not give over-saturated colors in gaming and most (non-color managed) applications which is something that the Dell 2408WFP cannot do.

If you are in North America you can find it for under $300.00 usually, and as low as $200.00 from Dell, but right now stock is limited due to excessive demand, so you may have to wait a month or two.

It is far preferable to a TN panel for a very reasonable price.

Here's a link to the appropriate thread:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

17" and 19" 4:3 monitors are a thing of the past, and provide very little value due to high relative costs. Also the 2209WA has a built-in 4:3 sizing mode for those older, non-wide screen games. The NEC 2690WUXI is an awesome screen, but due to slightly higher input lag than the Dell, is not suitable for hardcore first-person shooters. I have on and love it as well, but I am not a hardcore gamer :)
 
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If you're a hardcore CRT gaming fan then I'm not so sure 60Hz will please you but the 120Hz LCDs are quite a lot expensier.

Have you tried playing some games on a LCD before? :p You'll probably gonna notice they won't run as smooth as you're used to higher hz/FPS on your CRT, could be a problem for those who used CRT for so long.
 
10e said:
If you can get one, the Dell 2209WA is an excellent gaming screen offering low input lag, good response time, and the unique ability to do 1680x1050 @ 75hz over DVI.

It is an e-IPS screen offering excellent viewing angles and sRGB color gamut which does not give over-saturated colors in gaming and most (non-color managed) applications which is something that the Dell 2408WFP cannot do.

If you are in North America you can find it for under $300.00 usually, and as low as $200.00 from Dell, but right now stock is limited due to excessive demand, so you may have to wait a month or two.

It is far preferable to a TN panel for a very reasonable price.

Here's a link to the appropriate thread:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387587

17" and 19" 4:3 monitors are a thing of the past, and provide very little value due to high relative costs. Also the 2209WA has a built-in 4:3 sizing mode for those older, non-wide screen games. The NEC 2690WUXI is an awesome screen, but due to slightly higher input lag than the Dell, is not suitable for hardcore first-person shooters. I have on and love it as well, but I am not a hardcore gamer :)
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This!

Forget about 19" LCDs, they are not a good choice for gaming nowadays. They can be only useful at offices or as your grandma's monitor :)
 
Oh if you're looking for the fastest 22" display for gaming. This is probably it outside of the 120hz LCDs.

Iiyama ProLite B2206WS
http://www.digitalversus.com/article-358-5093-50.html

It has a measured input lag of 0.
Only con is that it lacks HDMI and its max resolution is 1680x1050.

If you want a monitor with 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolution you'll need to look at 24 inch monitors. There are some 23 inchers that do 1920x1080 as well.
 
If you are coming from CRT, I think the other thing you can do for yourself is not only consider suggestions as listed above (all of which are good), but mentally prepare yourself to first shop at a brick and mortar w/return policy (e.g., Best Buy) and buy at least a few diff displays, test them out, and get a feel w/things with a full intent of returning your purchases. Maybe also try an etailer with similar (like Amazon) and do the same.
 
sippm said:
If you are coming from CRT, I think the other thing you can do for yourself is not only consider suggestions as listed above (all of which are good), but mentally prepare yourself to first shop at a brick and mortar w/return policy (e.g., Best Buy) and buy at least a few diff displays, test them out, and get a feel w/things with a full intent of returning your purchases. Maybe also try an etailer with similar (like Amazon) and do the same.
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I would suggest the same thing. The few LCDs I tried from Best Buy were all oft-recommended 22"-24" TN panels on here and I found that I couldn't stand a single one of them compared to my CRT. I picked up a 120 Hz Viewsonic VX2265WM from Microcenter and it is FAR better. I'm not sure if the OP would consider himself picky about the blurring, but the average modern 60 Hz LCD is just horrifyingly bad as far as blurring goes and you should really ignore anyone who says different.
 
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