Acer Predator Z35 - worth it?

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It's VA, so viewing angles and color shifting might not be up to IPS quality, and it's relatively low resolution, but otherwise?

If you can fit it on your desk and drive it, why not?

(though I'd urge you to try one out locally first, and be able to return if necessary, these things are kind of hit and miss)
 

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Yea if your hell bent on getting an ultra-wide save up the extra and get a 3440x1440. If you run Nvidia make sure you get a Gsync display.
 

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Yea if your hell bent on getting an ultra-wide save up the extra and get a 3440x1440. If you run Nvidia make sure you get a Gsync display.
Yeah, I'm looking at Acer Predator Z35P now...

I guess I should demo one before spending $600-900 cash.
 

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Like many of these newer 'feature packed' gaming monitors, QC appears to be an issue. Buy locally if you can so that you can easily return/exchange.
Seems that the X34 has a lot of issues with backlight bleed - is this a huge ordeal for all 1440P?
 

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Seems that the X34 has a lot of issues with backlight bleed - is this a huge ordeal for all 1440P?

Backlight bleed is an issue for all IPS monitors and is rooted in how they're assembled. It's something that manufacturers could control for if they cared, and maybe they're caring a little more lately, but it's just something you're going to have to watch out for.

Also, panel lotteries roll downhill, something like, Apple gets the very best of a certain panel, then Dell/HP get their pick, then others (Acer, Asus, AOC, etc...). Depending on which manufacturers are interested in a particular panel, i.e. Apple isn't interested in 1440P curved UW monitors, going down the food chain may or may not be the best idea.

In any case, the advice stands: make sure that whatever you get meets your expectations, and be prepared to return it if it doesn't.
 

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Backlight bleed is an issue for all IPS monitors and is rooted in how they're assembled. It's something that manufacturers could control for if they cared, and maybe they're caring a little more lately, but it's just something you're going to have to watch out for.

Also, panel lotteries roll downhill, something like, Apple gets the very best of a certain panel, then Dell/HP get their pick, then others (Acer, Asus, AOC, etc...). Depending on which manufacturers are interested in a particular panel, i.e. Apple isn't interested in 1440P curved UW monitors, going down the food chain may or may not be the best idea.

In any case, the advice stands: make sure that whatever you get meets your expectations, and be prepared to return it if it doesn't.
Will backlight bleed get worse? Should I buy a used monitor that has very faint backlight bleeding from craigs?
 

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if you're looking at dropping that much cash on a monitor, WAIT. there are some huge developments that will be on the market by the end of this year, namely the PG35VQ and Predator X35; 35" 21:9, 200 Hz, 3440x1440, GSYNC 1000 nit HDR FALD VA.

i don't know how this will affect the rest of the market but if you can bear waiting four months it should be interesting at the very least.
 

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The Z35 is not that great reportedly. Low res (27" 1080p dpi), high price, and the marketing promise of 200hz which the TFT Central review found pretty dumb since the panel's response times makes it barely usable at 144hz
 
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if you're looking at dropping that much cash on a monitor, WAIT. there are some huge developments that will be on the market by the end of this year, namely the PG35VQ and Predator X35; 35" 21:9, 200 Hz, 3440x1440, GSYNC 1000 nit HDR FALD VA.

i don't know how this will affect the rest of the market but if you can bear waiting four months it should be interesting at the very least.
Thanks for this...
GSYNC HDR <<< so HDR is even better?!1111!!1
 

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HDR is a buzzword that encompases a collection of specifications that no shipping consumer display product can actually yet meet.

It includes, at least:
  • Rec.2020 color standards (10-bit)
  • A minimum brightness level
  • A simultaneous brightness capability
  • And in deference to the last two, a high contrast ratio
In theory, all other things being equal, and HDR display would be 'better' than a non-HDR display. However, given that HDR support is broadly halfassed on the desktop, I'd recommend waiting for detailed reviews.
 

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HDR is a buzzword that encompases a collection of specifications that no shipping consumer display product can actually yet meet.

It includes, at least:
  • Rec.2020 color standards (10-bit)
  • A minimum brightness level
  • A simultaneous brightness capability
  • And in deference to the last two, a high contrast ratio
In theory, all other things being equal, and HDR display would be 'better' than a non-HDR display. However, given that HDR support is broadly halfassed on the desktop, I'd recommend waiting for detailed reviews.
it depends on the standard.
 

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That too- though nothing can really implement the standards.

Hardest one will be trying to get the black levels (minimum brightness) and producing 10,000 nits of brightness at the same time. The base standard is 1,000 nits, and many can produce that, but then struggle with the black levels.
Right behind that will be not only reproducing the color gamuts represented by the color standards, but actually being accurate, on mass produced consumer devices. This isn't as big of a deal, though, at least not yet.
 

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Thanks for this...
GSYNC HDR <<< so HDR is even better?!1111!!1

The Acer X35 may be what I been waiting for. I'd prefer something larger in the 40+ size but 35" 4k at 200hz... that sounds really sexy. I wonder how sticker shock this will be?
 

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The Acer X35 may be what I been waiting for. I'd prefer something larger in the 40+ size but 35" 4k at 200hz... that sounds really sexy. I wonder how sticker shock this will be?

Unfortunately, it's not 4k, which is 8MP and 16:9, it's 3440x1440 which is 5MP and 21:9.

If it were actually 4k200 G-Sync HDR (which is impossible with current standards, but I'd take 4k120), I'd be all over it.
 

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That too- though nothing can really implement the standards.

Hardest one will be trying to get the black levels (minimum brightness) and producing 10,000 nits of brightness at the same time. The base standard is 1,000 nits, and many can produce that, but then struggle with the black levels.
Right behind that will be not only reproducing the color gamuts represented by the color standards, but actually being accurate, on mass produced consumer devices. This isn't as big of a deal, though, at least not yet.
i'm pretty sure plenty of displays can do HDR10. dolby vision is the hard one.
 

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For what it's worth, I tried a Z35 a while back and returned it within days. Worst VA panel I've ever seen, seen better IPSs, honestly.

I wouldn't say it was that bad per se, but it most certainly wasn't worth the money, and frankly wasn't big enough. Not to mention that if you read TFT Central's review (and I can confirm) anything above 100hz is a blurry pointless mess. It's just a pretty crappy panel tbh.

That said, playing Overwatch on it was bloody amazing with G-Sync.
 

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Unfortunately, it's not 4k, which is 8MP and 16:9, it's 3440x1440 which is 5MP and 21:9.

If it were actually 4k200 G-Sync HDR (which is impossible with current standards, but I'd take 4k120), I'd be all over it.

Crap, I did read that wrong. My bad. :-P Still 3440x1440 @200hz sounds great too.
 

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200hz seems ridiculous when most monitor manufactures screw up the response times.
 
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