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Can a vanilla card (straight from nvidia) overclock to the same extent a factory oc card can? (bfg/evga/xfx)
 
With a great GPU (card manufacturers often bin GPUs for overclocking) and a well made heatsink, yes.
 
And a good power supply with good rails. Might need an aftermarket HSF assembly though.
 
Ok well I have a corsair hx1000w psu, if I was to use that and a GTX285 straight from nvidia and to use a good HSF could I achieve the same, if not better results than I would with say a eVGA ssc 285?

thanks
 
Probably. The cards are typically reference design with a different/upgraded cooler. Slap on a nice aftermarket cooler and it's basically the same card.
 
ImAgainstIt said:
Can a vanilla card (straight from nvidia) overclock to the same extent a factory oc card can? (bfg/evga/xfx)
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Can it? Yes! Definetly.
Will it? The core usually will, the memory will depend on if they use different chips.

Are the cards worth the extra money? Sometimes, especially if they come with better memory chips (you'll have to read some reviews that check to see). Otherwise It is pretty much the same as buying a used card which someone says overclocks to X speed. You still roll the dice on how much further it will go but you atleast know it will go that high. It is warranted too though, something you wont get with most used cards. You pay for it through the nose though lol.
 
New EVGA GTX 285 SSC here. Max stable oc is right on FTW speeds on core and shaders. Well above FTW speed on the mem. (FTW = 1386 - my SSC = 1440). [H] must have gotten the sweetest of all sweet chips to get 1700 shaders on thier review card.
 
olsonpm said:
New EVGA GTX 285 SSC here. Max stable oc is right on FTW speeds on core and shaders. Well above FTW speed on the mem. (FTW = 1386 - my SSC = 1440). [H] must have gotten the sweetest of all sweet chips to get 1700 shaders on thier review card.
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my evga vanilla 285 does 1720 on the shader. i must have gotten an even sweeter card.
 
Well yes, that is sweet. Question for you though; how are you defining stable? Mine will "do" 725 core, 1656 shader's, and 1458 mem in everything except my personal test of stability. It will do CoD4, 3DM06, etc. etc. all day long at those setting's. BUT - Crysis @ 1600 x 1200 all high setting's, (my personal torture test) crashes to the infamous "NV driver has stopped responding" screen often accompanied by a freeze up. If I back off to 720 x 1620 x 1440 the gaming never stops.
 
As always YMMW and you can always end up with something that barely goes over the stock volts. So dont expect to make a vanilla card run at ftw/zomfg speeds right away.
 
olsonpm said:
Well yes, that is sweet. Question for you though; how are you defining stable? Mine will "do" 725 core, 1656 shader's, and 1458 mem in everything except my personal test of stability. It will do CoD4, 3DM06, etc. etc. all day long at those setting's. BUT - Crysis @ 1600 x 1200 all high setting's, (my personal torture test) crashes to the infamous "NV driver has stopped responding" screen often accompanied by a freeze up. If I back off to 720 x 1620 x 1440 the gaming never stops.
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i generally define stable as no artifacts in atitool for at least 20 minutes, 30 minutes furmark with no crash, and all games for multiple hours. although with my 285, for whatever reason, cod4 instantly crashes unless I remove any oc whatsoever. so i just set up a precision profile for vanilla clocks whenever I play it (not that often). i dont judge my stability based on one game though.
 
MurderCityDevil said:
i generally define stable as no artifacts in atitool for at least 20 minutes, 30 minutes furmark with no crash, and all games for multiple hours. although with my 285, for whatever reason, cod4 instantly crashes unless I remove any oc whatsoever. so i just set up a precision profile for vanilla clocks whenever I play it (not that often). i dont judge my stability based on one game though.
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I do, now, because for me it's just easier \ faster. Experience has taught me that if Crysis will run @ all high settings without problems, everything else will also. When I have the time I enjoy benchmarking 3D Mark 06 just because I'm used to it and know what my previous cards could do. I am trying to break the 20,000 barrier just for kicks; (current best with the new 285 is 19,381 vs. 10,044 from the SLI'ed 7900 GTX's I came from). But reality is reality. My machine is only used for gaming and Crysis has become my benchmark. High GPU overclocks that will work all day long for EVERYTHING else WILL crash in Crysis @ all high settings. It's simply the toughest test I've yet found. When / if something tougher comes along I'll go to that.
 
OCing anything is all luck of the draw. Some will OC better than others, and there is no gaurantee it will clock any higher than advertised.
 
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