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About Dell's Power Supplies

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GeForceX

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Does anyone have a clue what type of power supply and what make they are from Dell has? What's the average watt does Dell put in ranging from the entry to the top of the line PC's? Not going to buy but just see what they have.

And another minor question is about their RAM, does anyone know where they get theirs from? Would it be *generic*?

-J.
 
hasbro psu and kmart ram . I think its all generic, what psu do you have? The more powerful one I have seen is a 300w most likley its a 250w
 
I still have a 8200 which serves as my media bitch. I am not sure what PSU's dell use but I think people underestimate them greatly. I have had a 5900 and 2 drives with a gig of rdram and never had any problems. But those who have never even touched a dell will tell you other wise. Also time have changed and so have wattage and now all standard demesions come with a 300W and the top of the lines I remember reading come with a above 400W PSU. Dell uses mainly Samsung for ram.
 
DR_K13 said:
hasbro psu and kmart ram . I think its all generic, what psu do you have? The more powerful one I have seen is a 300w most likley its a 250w
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DELL DOESNT USE FREAKIN GENERIC RAM OR HARDDRIVES. they use memorax or samsung for rdram and they use maxtor harddrives.
 
Thank you. Just what I needed to know to compare a BYOC PC to a Dell PC.

And, have anyone of you checked out www.ibuypower.com? They have ridiculously cheap PC's. Is building one yourself still cheaper than getting any from there?

-J.
 
xdviper said:
DELL DOESNT USE FREAKIN GENERIC RAM OR HARDDRIVES. they use memorax or samsung for rdram and they use maxtor harddrives.
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Who said anything about hard drives? PSU != HDD

GeForceX said:
Thank you. Just what I needed to know to compare a BYOC PC to a Dell PC.

And, have anyone of you checked out www.ibuypower.com? They have ridiculously cheap PC's. Is building one yourself still cheaper than getting any from there?

-J.
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Why not find out yourself? www.newegg.com
 
Well the guy said the ram and the PSU were generic which is wrong. Dell's PSU's wattage is understated and they perform very well. The wiring is totally proprietary though. I'm not sure about the ram but if he said Samsung, I'd go with it I had non generic SDRam from my old dells but I dont remember the brand.
 
Thing is that Dell includes a lot of things for free such as a digital camera (probably not that good but the consumer doesn't know that), WordPerfect or Microsoft Office XP and productivity packs and catchy "buy this" signs such as the *50 dollars rebate* offer which makes the customer feeling all kinky about it. So, all in the end, which is a better buy? I will make a comparable system using NewEgg soon.

-J.
 
The only negative thing about Dell's PSUs are that they aren't standard ATX. The pin-out is different. You can't judge the quality of a PSU simply by the wattage.
 
I've also dealt with a few (older) Dell's that had reverse mounted power supplies. It's not something you really notice until it needs to be changed and you find out that you have to mod the case to get the new PS to fit correctly. I think Dell tries to keep the PS proprietary in most cases.

As to RAM, I have seen the whole range from cheap to on the fairly expensive side, so it's a lot of luck of the draw

As to computers being cheaper to build, I don't really think so anymore. You hit it on the head when you said that Dell (and the other mfg's) can include a lot of things for very cheap, if not free, because of the volume they produce. What you do get when you build, is the knowledge that what you build is the best components that you can buy. Then you don't have to ask what kind of RAM or PS is in your machine.

Cheers.
 
GeForceX said:
Thing is that Dell includes a lot of things for free such as a digital camera (probably not that good but the consumer doesn't know that), WordPerfect or Microsoft Office XP and productivity packs and catchy "buy this" signs such as the *50 dollars rebate* offer which makes the customer feeling all kinky about it. So, all in the end, which is a better buy? I will make a comparable system using NewEgg soon.

-J.
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If you can go with Newegg. I always say build your own to gain knowledge. I mainly went with Dell my first time around because I saved about $500 for the same high-end parts. Right now almost everything is on the cheap so the egg may be better unless your buying a XPS. :eek:

I want one...mainly the laptop version. What a beaut. :p
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.html?i=1920
 
djnes said:
The only negative thing about Dell's PSUs are that they aren't standard ATX. The pin-out is different. You can't judge the quality of a PSU simply by the wattage.
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Dell PSU's are standard ATX... only the really old (think PII here) are non ATX

and they arnt bad at all i dont think... i powered a dual athlon xp off of a "250" watt dell psu for like 20 mins to install windows after a "350" watt turbocase psu blew up running the same system
 
Well, don't mean to put burden with an off-topic post but I made this comparable list to see if Dell Vs. Custom Built is worth it.

GeForceX's PC
Custom Case With 300 Watts PSU - 50.00
AMD Athlon XP 2500+ - 81.00
Asrock K7S41GX With Integrated Graphics + 56K Modem + Ethernet + Audio - 48.00
Corsair Value Select 256 MB DDR400 PC-3200 - 44.00
Western Digital SE Ultra ATA/133 7200 RPM 8 MB Cache Hard Drive - 63.00
Lite-On 12X DVD±RW Drive With Nero + PowerDVD 5 Software - 91.00 (Or Lite-On CD-RW 52X - 27.00)
Floppy Drive 3.5 Inch - Free
Windows XP Professional - Free
Viewsonic 17 Inch .25 DPi E70FB Monitor - 130.00
Microsoft Black Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse - 33.00
Lifetime Warranty - Free
Maximum Total: $540.00 Without Shipping~
Minimum Total: $476.00 Without Shipping~
Maximum Total Price: $580 or $520~

Note: Price ranges from 520 to 580 because I am not sure what my friend wants-- either a DVD±RW or a plain CD-RW.

Dell's PC
Dell Case With 300~ Watts PSU
Intel P4 2.6 GHz 533 MHz FSB
Intel Motherboard With Integrated Graphics + 56K Modem + Ethernet + Audio
Samsung 128 MB DDR333 PC-2700
Maxtor 40 GB Ultra ATA/100 7200 RPM 2 MB Cache Hard Drive
"Generic" 48X CD-RW Drive With Sonic RecordNow
No Floppy Drive~
17 Inch .27 DPi E773C Monitor
Dell Quietkey Keyboard
Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse
1 Year Limited Warranty
Kodak EasyShare CX6200 Digital Camera - Free
Maximum Total: $550 Dollars Without Shipping~
Maximum Total After Rebate: $500 Dollars Without Shipping~

Note: The above is the default package PC from one of Dell's select models.

Dell's PC - Upgraded
Dell Case With 300~ Watts PSU
Intel P4 2.6 GHz 533 MHz FSB
Intel Motherboard With Integrated Graphics + 56K Modem + Ethernet + Audio
*Samsung 256 MB DDR333 PC-2700 - 50.00
*Maxtor 80 GB Ultra ATA/100 7200 RPM 2 MB Cache Hard Drive - 30.00
*"Generic" 48X CD-RW Drive / DVD-ROM Combo Drive - 39.00
*Floppy Drive 3.5 Inch - 20.00
*Windows XP Professional Edition - 79.00
17 Inch .27 DPi E773C Monitor
Dell Quietkey Keyboard
*Dell Optical USB Mouse - 10.00
1 Year Limited Warranty
Kodak EasyShare CX6200 Digital Camera - Free
Maximum Total: $777 Dollars Without Shipping~
Maximum Total After Rebate: $727 Dollars Without Shipping~

Note: The above is optional components to compare "apples to apples" (at least that's what Dell could provide) upgraded. It is quite comparable to the PC I am building (the top part). It is notable that the quality/brand names lack a bit in Dell's case. Even the monitor is better. Even the RAM is speedier (3200)-- not sure how that affects Athlon XP's however since it has only 333 FSB (unless you overclock it). :)

That should explain a bit-- to the computer enthusiast, you save money (a few hundred bucks) if you don't find Dell's other software's important or anything and you can trust the reliability and quality of your OWN build while Dell uses some regular stuff that's cheaper than the 'enthusiast' hardware. And most of the stuff I've gotten are somewhat overclockable too. That should speak for itself. However, I'm welcome to constructive criticism on that custom build I made up. Keep in mind, it's aimed for basic usage and the motherboard must include graphics/audio/ethernet (to cut the costs, really).

-J.
 
Also, one interesting spinoff is that the company Asrock (which is in my build) is actually a 'sub-company' extended by Asus. Asus didn't want to demote their company's image by covering the budget market. It wanted to remain on top so they decided on a secondary company that still follows the reputation of Asus' and still cover the lower market.

-J.
 
AMD T-type said:
who would do such a horrendeous thing ???!!111
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Note: The above is the default package PC from one of Dell's select models.
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That's why I made a note. ;) You may have to speak to Dell directly about this. :p

-J.
 
PC Power & Cooling is currently suppling the PSUs if Im not mistaken
here is their selector including:
Dimension
OptiPlex
Power Edge
Precision Workstation
Smart Step

youll need to contact PCP&C tech support for others

example > Precision Workstation 420 Silencer® 360 Dell Power Supply
 
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