A64 3200 Running Too Hot?

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Hello guys -

I had recently bought a A64 system and I have noticed my procesor is running pretty hot, making it almost impossible to overclock.

These are the specs of my system (The ones that would effect the tempeture):


-Thermaltake SILENT BOOST
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-036&depa=1

-GIGABYTE "GA-K8NS PRO"
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-241&depa=0

-Lian-Li 12-Bay Silver Aluminum Case
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-112-024&DEPA=0

And heres my CPU-Z information for my CPU:

CPUZinfo.jpg



Im using Motherboard Monitor to monitor my CPU temp.

The highest I have seen the temp go up to is 70 degrees celcius (This was when I was playing Counter-Strike: Source). And it normaly idles around 55 degrees.

My concerns is, that I would like to be able to OC this chip in the future, but at the looks of it im already running dangeriously hot now.

What might be the problem with it running so hot? Is it becuase its a Clawhammer core? Or maybe my case is way to small (2 fans on front blowing are in, 1 in back going out, 1 on top going out). Or possibly that heatsink is a pile of junk.

Oh, and just to throw this in there, my video card (BFG 6800 GT OC) idles around 56 degrees.

Could anyone help me out and decypher what is wrong here?
 
yes, 70c max is much to high; even for the Clawhammer 3200.

55C is much to high for idle as well.

I would:

1. remove, clean, and reseat HSF, use good thermal material (ie AS5) - follow the directions, do NOT put too much.
2. Buy a better HSF and fan, stock is okay, but good aftermarket solutions should land you in the mid-to-high 30s during idle and mid-40s MAX
3. look into a case with better airflow
4. maybe your temp sensor is malfunctioning (possible)
 
Sorry, didn't read that you had a silent boost.

I'd say a reseat with better thermal material is in order; probably not making good contact.

I don't think your case is the problem, look sbig enough to me (unless its a rats nest and the wiring/cabling is inhibiting airflow.
 
Thank you guys, ill re-sit the heatsink.

I have my cables pretty clean, not covering any of the fans, so I dont think that is the problem.

Ill tell ya how it goes.
 
Alright I went out and bought some Artic Silver 5. I re-set the CPU with it. I read online that one of the better methods was to put 1 1/2 grain of rice size of compound onto the middle of the cpu. Then put the heatsink down onto it and rotate the heatsink a little.

I did that, and it seems like it only filled up about 1/2 of the CPU's surface area from the middle streaching out.

I recorded my temps while playing CSS for about a hour and the highest it got to was 68 (The hotest it got was 70 before).

This still seems like it is very much a problem and re-setting/puting on new compound didnt really do the trick.

Does this method of putting on the compound not work well? Or am I just screwd?
 
a grain of rice? thats not enough! i put a good dimes size of the ocz paste on mine and with my gigbyte 3d cooler pro , with my 3000+ at 2205 i get loaded windows temp of 37 and fully loade at 42 on a warm day
 
artic silver's website has a very detailed explination on how to apply thermal paist correctly.

you want to use a credit card or similar material, and spread a very thin coat over the entire CPU. the thinner the better, but make sure the entire cpu is covered. then install the heatsink.
 
Aris said:
artic silver's website has a very detailed explination on how to apply thermal paist correctly.

you want to use a credit card or similar material, and spread a very thin coat over the entire CPU. the thinner the better, but make sure the entire cpu is covered. then install the heatsink.
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Too bad that's not the best way to do it. ;) The actual die under the heatspreader doesn't go from corner to corner, so you want thermal compound over where the die is. Anywhere else isn't going to do very much.



Arctic Silver said:
- On an Intel P4 or Athlon64 type CPU with a large metal heat spreader, put a small amount of Arctic Silver onto the center of the heat spreader as shown in the photo.
- Athlon64 - About the size of one and a half uncooked grains of short-grain white rice or 3/4 of a BB.
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Take it from the Arctic Silver themselves.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
 
thats the way i still do it, you definatly wont hurt anything doing it that way, and you might help things. so the extra paist is worth it for me.
 
I always screw up on the "dont put it in your mouth" part.


I was using a modded Zalman 7000cu on a NF7-s board and it took the third try at seating it to get it correct. It was seated, but incorrectly for the first 2 trys and the temps were insanely high. It autoshutdown at 75c . So correctly applying the AS5 and correctly seating the HS is super important. Do it as many times as needed to be confident in a good seating.
 
If you havent, update your BIOS. My 3000+ had horrible temps until the last BIOS update but now its fine. Still can't oc though, anything over 220 fsb (no matter the multiplier) won't boot.
 
obyj34 said:
If you havent, update your BIOS. My 3000+ had horrible temps until the last BIOS update but now its fine. Still can't oc though, anything over 220 fsb (no matter the multiplier) won't boot.
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I had the same problem. I found a thread on anandtech with nforce3 neo2 motherboards that don't like certain ram chips. The chips can be found in corsair and kingston ram. May I also ask how many watts your psu is? Mine is only 350.
 
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