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4850 is a better investment , its single slot solution , runs cooler and doesn't require nearly the same power to run and it beats the Ultra in AA benchmarks. However if you want a real upgrade go for the 4870 , the extra 100 dollars is well spent.
 
A 2 year old 8800Ultra is not worth $200.

Especially when a 4850 performs equal or slightly better and can be bought for cheaper than $200
 
I can't believe that this card that was being offered last summer which cost upwards of 700 bucks isn't even worth $200 anymore.
 
I can't believe that this card that was being offered last summer which cost upwards of 700 bucks isn't even worth $200 anymore.

nVidias usual overpricing when theres no competition.
8800Ultra had no meaning of existance when the 8800GT was released at $250.
 
The 4850 runs pretty hot until you manually set the fan to run at a higher percentage. I set mine to 50% and now it idles around 50c. The auto settings don't work very well toward keeping it cool. Quiet, yes. But cool? not so much.

It does draw less power than the 8800 Ultra so it's really a design issue with ATI, It would definitely run cooler than the 8800 Ultra by far if both had the same cooling setup. I don't know why ATI chose to put such a crappy HSF on the 4850 and then compound the problem with auto fan software that doesn't.
 
the e2180 will bottle neck on either card at stock clocks. OC'ing it to ~3.0 and you'll be just fine. Now the E8600 will not bottle neck at stock clocks at all.
 
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