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Yeah, and it sucks.....

Well, not the card, but the fact that i upgraded to pci-e from AGP version of x800xtPE and was about to sell it secondhand, same day the 7800gs agp was announced :mad:

Imagine the pricedrop i could get for my agp x800xtPE :mad:
 
MindBuster said:
Yeah, and it sucks.....

Well, not the card, but the fact that i upgraded to pci-e from AGP version of x800xtPE and was about to sell it secondhand, same day the 7800gs agp was announced :mad:

Imagine the pricedrop i could get for my agp x800xtPE :mad:
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Ummm...why would it?

According to most the tests I've seen, the X850XT PE outpaces the 7800GS in virtually every test - and not by a small distance in some of them (the only test it wins in at Anandtech is 'Battlefield 2'). The X800XT PE isn't much slower than the X850XT PE at all. Seems you should be alright? :confused:
 
heatlesssun said:
Buy why would you. That's $2k of high end monitor that really won't shine with that card, at least not in gaming.
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QFT
 
Anandtech's review says the 7800GS was tested /underclocked/ from its factory defaults. Read page 3.

FPS, especially minimum FPS is better overall than the X850 in most reviews so far. Still not a reason to fork over $300 or $350 if you already have a 6600/6800/X800/X850/etc.
 
Frank DC said:
Anandtech's review says the 7800GS was tested /underclocked/ from its factory defaults. Read page 3.

FPS, especially minimum FPS is better overall than the X850 in most reviews so far. Still not a reason to fork over $300 or $350 if you already have a 6600/6800/X800/X850/etc.
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Actually, they changed it so it WAS clocked at factory defaults. They simply had two test models from eVGA and BFG that were *overclocked*, however, and did not want that to unduly influence the scores.
 
Frank DC said:
Excuse me but Nvidia doesn't make video cards.
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No, but they set the clock speeds that will be used by OEMs making 90% of the sales of those cards. PNY does not alter their clocks from nVidia's defaults. 3D Fuzion does not alter their clocks from nVidia's defaults. Mad Dog does not alter their clocks from nVidia's defaults. etc. et al.

I think Anandtech did well showing what MOST of those cards in the wild are going to perform like.
 
This card is going to go over like a turd in a punch bowl.. Why would you drop 2K on a monitor for a PC w/ an AGP slot in it ?? Wouldnt you want to see some of that high res luv from a much better card and mobo combo ?? If you have 2K to blow on a monitor drop that AGP and get a new mobo and a vid card !! Just my .02
 
It doesn't make the decision any less arbitrary. If a given manufacturer is selling the 7800GS at a given speed, and warranties it at that speed, who cares what OEMs and other manufacturers are doing?

Anandtech's review help explain the basic performance of this GPU, but it's useless for making practical comparisons for people who want to know the performance of specific cards. It's a safe bet most of us fall into that category.
 
dderidex said:
Ummm...why would it?

According to most the tests I've seen, the X850XT PE outpaces the 7800GS in virtually every test - and not by a small distance in some of them (the only test it wins in at Anandtech is 'Battlefield 2'). The X800XT PE isn't much slower than the X850XT PE at all. Seems you should be alright? :confused:
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Exactly, but ppl excuse themselfes with 7800gs has PS3.0 :mad:
 
LordBritish said:
I currently have a 6800 Ultra AGP.

Is this 7800GS an upgrade for me?
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Yes it is. But seriously, I'd go PCI-E and then grab a 7800GT. The 7800GT is faster, and can support SLi.
 
The only way it is going to be a big seller is if it is priced reasonably. Most people with AGP combos have them because they don't want to fork over the money for all the new stuff, especially when technology changes so damn fast. I just can't see spending $300 or more on an AGP card anymore. If you have the money to blow on a $300+ dollar card, why not spend a bit more and upgrade to the PCI-E combo?
 
LordBritish said:
I currently have a 6800 Ultra AGP.

Is this 7800GS an upgrade for me?
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Heck no it's not... I don't know why hardness said it is. That's like saying, do you want to upgrade from a unlocked GT to an Ultra... only the clock speeds are higher, but it's not worth it. At least part of what he said was true. Upgrade to PCI-E and just get a GT... For the price for a GS, you can actually get a good PCIE Mobo and GT.
 
MindBuster said:
Yeah, and it sucks.....

Well, not the card, but the fact that i upgraded to pci-e from AGP version of x800xtPE and was about to sell it secondhand, same day the 7800gs agp was announced :mad:

Imagine the pricedrop i could get for my agp x800xtPE :mad:
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Anyone know if it's worth an upgrade from the PCI-E version of x800xtPE to a 7800GT? I've been thinking about it for awhile now. I might wait until the 7900's come out and hopefully catch a price break in for the 7800GT or even a GTX :)
 
The question was "Is it an upgrade", not "It the upgrade worth the cost".

The answer to that first question is yes.

And for millions of people, the cost of upgrading to PCI-E is NOT just the cost of a motherboard and video card. Lots of us are far more heavily invested in various AGP platforms. AGP systems still outnumber PCI-E 4 to 1.
 
I will be upgrading from my 5950 Ultra to the 7800 AGP. I like my IC7-G running at 3.8ghz and will hold off going PCIe for a little bit more now.
 
I currently have a 6800 Ultra AGP.

Is this 7800GS an upgrade for me?
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no, not remotely worth it either

Anyone know if it's worth an upgrade from the PCI-E version of x800xtPE to a 7800GT? I've been thinking about it for awhile now. I might wait until the 7900's come out and hopefully catch a price break in for the 7800GT or even a GTX
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kind of, but spending the $300~ for a small performance gain again isn't worth it, unless you are looking for a bit more features, other wise no, the GTX would be a decent upgrade but thats raising the bill again, really depends on what you are looking for and what kind of room you have to play with
 
Something wrong with those scores In 3d Mark 05 my wifes X800Xt pe scores 6669 and the X850xt pe score 6300+ my wifes is an intel3.4c how is it that is possiable because My wifes card with that cpu would score very close to 7000points very smelly goings on.

My mistake it was a fixed fight . They couldn't find a X850 xt pe . Than they only O/C the memory to 600 core @ 520 I call BS

http://ckturbo128.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=computerhardware&action=display&thread=1138544120

If your going to do a compare try to do apples to apples. Yes I do believe the nv is faster but that review is pure BS

An overclocked x850xt pe O/C would be the correct compare. want to bet the results would have been differant.
 
Sparky said:
I will be upgrading from my 5950 Ultra to the 7800 AGP. I like my IC7-G running at 3.8ghz and will hold off going PCIe for a little bit more now.
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QFT....
I like my Dual 1.6LV Xeons clocked to 3.2GHz also....and they are AGP only. They'll do 3.6 stable in Windows, but not Prime95 stable.
Plus my SFF box for lanpartys that has a 3.0E Prescott that will clock 3.4GHz on air....which is also AGP.

For me to upgrade to PCI-e....
$350 or so for a video card. 7800GT not GTX or X1900XT
$100 - $200 for a good motherboard..... not an eVGA that they can't give away.
$200.00 for RAM or more
$300 - $500 for a CPU that is only a little better than what I'm currently running.
$150+ for a good PSU that will support PCIe and possibly SLI for later.

The realistic cost to convert to PCIe with a 7800GT - Not a GTX - is well over $1000.00
And that is using every bit of my old stuff that I can and NOT going for top of the line CPU's, memory, or video cards. Without gaining much, if anything, over my Dual LV's, which more than double a P4 3.0E benchmarks in Sandra.

So,
Is the 7800GS an upgrade for me?
$300 vs over $1000.00

You do the math!


 
K10 said:
don't forget: mobo, cpu, memory, etc. i'm perfectly content with my current system, albeit archaic, considering that i don't game.
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This is true, especially for those who game but have high-end Athlon XP-based systems. Going to PCIe involves an MB and proc change, both of which are currently stupid since M2 is coming soon. Furthermore, if you're going to wait yet another generation before upgrading architectures, the 7800GS is a good idea.
 
lateraliian said:
This is true, especially for those who game but have high-end Athlon XP-based systems. Going to PCIe involves an MB and proc change, both of which are currently stupid since M2 is coming soon. Furthermore, if you're going to wait yet another generation before upgrading architectures, the 7800GS is a good idea.
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I still think its price of 300$ is still to high, I mean I could buy a 7800GT and a new mobo for about 360$ and it would offer a nice boost from my 6800GT, but I'm waiting for the 7900GTX to come out before I make any decisions.
 
sculelos said:
I still think its price of 300$ is still to high, I mean I could buy a 7800GT and a new mobo for about 360$ and it would offer a nice boost from my 6800GT, but I'm waiting for the 7900GTX to come out before I make any decisions.
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For anyone with an Athlon 64 chip, yes, this is a totally valid argument. In fact, I'd wager you're completely stupid, unless you have a 754, to buy a GS if you have an Athlon 64 since eVGA is giving away nForce 4 MB's with their 7800GT's. But those on >3000 or over-clocked XP's (that have less than a 6800 series), the GS isn't a bad idea, considering you could still get a year of decent performance out of that card (and wait until the 8 series from nVidia comes out, along with quad-cores supposedly coming in 1.5 years or so)
 
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