A New Kind Of Cardboard Box?

Unbelievable that people are making such an issue out of the easy open feature. There is nothing to stop people using good old fashioned tape to seal the box. The new design is efficient and easier to pack, etc but can still be sealed with some tape if security is such an issue.
 
BladeVenom said:
Less cardboard = less strength. UPS would destroy half of them. It would be like Godzilla in Tokyo.
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not necessarily or do you think bridges would be most stable if made from a solid block of steel? it depends on how the layers of cardboard are done.
 
It's a cute little box.....little.

Try packing something substantial in a larger version.

Do you need a form for each box size? Yikes.

The "pop and open" is just not practical in todays shipping world, too easy to open.

Gimme the fat clear tape anyday.:D
 
Now have somebody that's taped 1000's of regular boxes together and watch them do it in a fifth of the time that guy did. Not to mention the pre-peeled end of the paper covering the adhesive.
 
LOL these guys are smart? Tape makes it work better I work with boxes all day at Walmart tape is the only way to go....
 
I worked at a shipping warehouse for a bit. Packing took place in a pretty small area in order to be efficient. Basically each employee worked at a station. At that warehouse, we used 6 different box sizes for most orders and there were several other sizes for uncommon dimensions. Having that many box folder things would just not be physically feasible. Efficiency would plummet having to constantly swap around.
 
Comixbooks said:
LOL these guys are smart? Tape makes it work better I work with boxes all day at Walmart tape is the only way to go....
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I think if after assembling the box they just ran a strip of tape around the outside all the way around, it'd make the thing massively stronger.

But then you'd lose the "sides pop open" ability... which frankly I don't think is all that valuable unless it's something big and heavy or something tightly packed, in which case you probably also want the thing packed with lots of excess cardboard and tape anyway to keep the contents safe.
 
Prime example of highly intelligent individuals over engineering something and failing to see the incredible flaws in their design.

A for Effort.

D for actual real world practicality.
 
chameleoneel said:
Guys, these are engineering students at a prestigious school.
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BFD? I was a science student at a prestigious school. Most engineering students at prestigious schools end up doing bitch work at some tech company.

I just tried to sit on a typical cardboard box the other day, and it folded immediately, under my weight. and I only weigh about 154lbs. Try to put something fairly heavy in a box and the tape gives out long before the cardboard does.
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Was the box empty?
 
forcefed said:
There's more class projects to be seen, this school is churning out great ideas one after another :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKslr1ox4-Q&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK93-hFISQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28UofPGfS0&feature=youtu.be
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I looked at the one for the "narrow access wrench."

Congratulations engineering students at a prestigious school (Cooper Union? WGAF), you just "invented" something I could buy at Lowe's five years ago.
 
schizrade said:
LOL

Be nice to the well meaning greenies. Nothing you ship will ever get there, but at least you will feel good about yourself. *smug self satisfaction complete*
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:D

That pretty much represents my take as well.

Even if their box is supposedly "greener" and "non toxic," the Smug Factor exuded by the two inventors is waaay over FDA limits.
 
forcefed said:
There's more class projects to be seen, this school is churning out great ideas one after another :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKslr1ox4-Q&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK93-hFISQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28UofPGfS0&feature=youtu.be
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:eek:

Cooper's Union is apparently THE PLACE to go if you want to learn how to market and pitch an obvious, impractical idea to investors and the public.

It's no crime to be a Young and Dumb student, but you start to get in trouble when you combine those factors with the level of smug arrogance seen here.
 
Oh dear, show your product to the world, but no patent in place, not even patent pending. Clever. D'oh.
 
I know someone that used to work for a major shipping carrier and I've heard stories about what happens when stuff goes from point A to point B. That box is never going to survive mass transport. Shipping a box from, say, California to New York, by ground, you're going to have it go through at least 3-5 sorting hubs, several trailers, and ultimately a delivery vehicle - assuming nobody sends it to the wrong hub in between, which means extra transit time. Every time a box goes through one of those hubs it can be dropped, stepped on, jammed up in a conveyor and crushed, leaked on, and then with the trailers it can be loaded under a lot of heavy stuff, not secured so that it bounces all around... it goes on and on. Oh, and those trailers aren't all nicely palletized and shrink wrapped up either. They're loose stacked and crammed in pretty much any old way they'll fit. Then you got some kid being paid less than $9.00/hr doing grueling physical work unloading and loading that stuff who really doesn't care diddly squat about the 1 gazillionth box he's touched since getting hired in a job he probably hates... then the delivery driver is in a hurry and just chucks the box onto your porch in the rain and it gets soaked. Oh, and let's not forget that cardboard is RECYCLABLE.

Conventional boxes may be slower and use more material, but they're sturdier, and tape keeps stuff in and helps keep light fingers out. Nobody wants broken stuff, and "improper packing" is UPS or FEDEX or USPS's out for paying insurance claims on damaged merchandise. Nobody's going to use that contraption, or if they do, it'll be a short-lived run.
 
The design of that box was destroyed in the first few comments on reddit. Pretty sure the box is crap.
 
Welsper said:
This was on Reddit a couple of days ago, the users there tore it (the concept) to pieces. AFAIK the creators don't even have a patent for it yet!
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My guess is they cannot get a patent because this is nothing really new, saw similar stuff thirty years ago.
 
did they forget about when you ship normally you ship with packing in the box like bubble wrap, styro nuts? I dont know if I would trust it from opening in transit with no tape....
 
schizrade said:
LOL

Be nice to the well meaning greenies. Nothing you ship will ever get there, but at least you will feel good about yourself. *smug self satisfaction complete*
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Less cardboard = less money... doesn't have to be about being green.
 
[EOCF] Tim;1040492716 said:
Oh dear, show your product to the world, but no patent in place, not even patent pending. Clever. D'oh.
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Exactly what I thought. Well, it will be a good learning experience - welcome to capitalism kids!
 
It doesn't matter because the idea is worthless. FedEx, Amazon, etc figured this out a long time ago.
 
The kids over at Reddit can be a tough crowd. In there defense however, they're still figuring out the benefits of proper hygiene so I wouldn't take there comments to heart. I for one like the idea & the concept behind it. It may not take off but I can see them working directly with certain companies that sell small products. It's an idea that won't be widespread but will be utilized by those that want to think outside the box. :p
 
forcefed said:
Who knew so many people on reddit were box designers/engineers/packers/shippers and whatnot http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comm...i_are_looking_to_revolutionize_the/?limit=500
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ofc I'm a materials/manufacturing engineer, computer scientists, it specialist, network analyst, therapist, astronaut, EE, cowboy, oil tycoon. After all 100% of what people say on the internet is true.
Aluisious said:
It doesn't matter because the idea is worthless. FedEx, Amazon, etc figured this out a long time ago.
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Amazon doesn't fucking care about wasing cardboard and tape have you seen how big of boxes they use to ship the smallest of items?!?!

They are the most likely source to have put research into that area but there is nothing reassuring that they came up with a similar design or anything left a theoretical standpoint. Simply put you don't know only fedex or amazon knows, and the creators of this type of box know a lot more about it than you do.
temujin987 said:
not necessarily or do you think bridges would be most stable if made from a solid block of steel? it depends on how the layers of cardboard are done.
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People seem to think cardboard has a linear strength to it they likely took less cardboard from a design standpoint not making the cardboard thinner. And this box doesn't use tape on the bottom to hold the weight but uses the cardboard to bare all the weight by itself without tape as it's assembled by rolling it into shape essentially and securing the top. Only issue I have is how does it fair when holding the box upside down. That easy to open top what if a small heavy object to pushing down on it because the box is upside down. Will that pop the box open.
w4ffles said:
I worked at a shipping warehouse for a bit. Packing took place in a pretty small area in order to be efficient. Basically each employee worked at a station. At that warehouse, we used 6 different box sizes for most orders and there were several other sizes for uncommon dimensions. Having that many box folder things would just not be physically feasible. Efficiency would plummet having to constantly swap around.
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Ding ding having a assembly assisting device takes up space the larger the box the larger that thing needs to be. And only one person at a time can use it. If the boxes can be assembled at a reasonable time without that. I wouldn't see a problem though.
forcefed said:
There's more class projects to be seen, this school is churning out great ideas one after another :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKslr1ox4-Q&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZK93-hFISQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h28UofPGfS0&feature=youtu.be
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Their school seems to have a bunch of bored film and marketing students.
 
15-20% less cardboard means thats a lot more trees these guys can hug. damn hippies.
 
Is it just me or does that new box seem to be a use only once box and throw away. I do not think that is good because we reuse the boxes that stuff is shipped in all the time.
 
I'm a supervisor at a UPS hub. I hope we get these boxes. It would be sheer hilarity as everything is busting open everywhere :D :D :D
 
XYZ carrier employee... Ooops, it accidentally opened! Look what's inside... nice content disappearing trick. Again, do you want to see how easy that was to open? Now, look how quickly it repackages... see it was an empty box, trust me. NO tampering proof from torn tape residue. Let's make is easier for a thief to take from you. :D
 
ManofGod said:
Is it just me or does that new box seem to be a use only once box and throw away. I do not think that is good because we reuse the boxes that stuff is shipped in all the time.
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That is the odd thing. They said how the wax is reusable for the seal, but you break the top to open it. They also said that you can flip the box inside out to reuse it to ship something back with a label free box. But I don't see short of taping it shut how it works in that direction.
 
Ermahgerd! How does it work? There's no tape! This cardboard box is not secure! It's not even cardboard!? Stupid, dirty Hippies! It's crap.

The world just isn't ready for a new type of cardboard box. Even if it's not that new. There are quite a few of these small fold up boxes with an adhesive strip that work just fine for shipping the cheap plastic crap people get in the mail.

It's not really the fault of the box but more the presentation. Shifty eyed, awkward nerds don't make good pitchmen. They were using a previously opened box to demonstrate how easy it is to open which made it appear as if it would spring apart with the slightest flick of a delicate wrist. That's a horrible message to send when introducing a container to the internets.
 
swimming pool said:
Ermahgerd! How does it work? There's no tape! This cardboard box is not secure! It's not even cardboard!? Stupid, dirty Hippies! It's crap.

The world just isn't ready for a new type of cardboard box. Even if it's not that new. There are quite a few of these small fold up boxes with an adhesive strip that work just fine for shipping the cheap plastic crap people get in the mail.

It's not really the fault of the box but more the presentation. Shifty eyed, awkward nerds don't make good pitchmen. They were using a previously opened box to demonstrate how easy it is to open which made it appear as if it would spring apart with the slightest flick of a delicate wrist. That's a horrible message to send when introducing a container to the internets.
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wasn't a previously opened box, they closed it up on the video. They even state that it is meant to be that easy, just a push on the top and boom the box is open.
 
And they missed a prime opportunity to have some hot blonde describe her box and explain how to open it.
 
Exavior said:
wasn't a previously opened box, they closed it up on the video. They even state that it is meant to be that easy, just a push on the top and boom the box is open.
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Naw. Watch closely. It wasn't done all in one take. They were going for the silly infomercial schtick where the old box is nearly impossible to use but theirs is super quick and easy. In one shot he is holding the box closed. At times you can also see the perforation is already torn before he opens it.

This is typical marketing BS that leads people to see what isn't there. In this case it backfired.
 
So... It's the same box that Amazon has been using to ship books for years now?
 
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