9800 gx2 woes

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icxnamjah

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Hey guys, just slapped in a 9800 gx2 and I want to cry.

Crysis runs fine at 1680 x 1050 at very high settings

Unreal Tournament 3 runs like butter with maxed out settings @ 1680 x 1050

Counter Strike Source, TF2, etc...all run like a dream ...but

World of Warcraft just suffers. I also noticed when logging into the game world, the load time increased by at least 2 x.

Can anyone help me out with this problem? WoW is the game I play the most and its just almost unplayable.

Thanks in advance.
 
After some testing and swapping my 8800gtx back in I noticed that the image quality with the 9800 gx2 is superior, however on the 8800gtx I would get fps of over 100 using the same in game settings as I do with the 9800 gx2.

I can't seem to break 30 fps no matter where I go with the gx2. I have the "eye" where I can see the difference in fps and it is so annoying :T

Can't understand why WoW's 3D engine does not like my gx2 and loves my 8800gtx more?

Doesn't make any sense :T

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

edit : vsync is off if your wondering
 
If you havent already make sure you are trying out different drivers (even beta ones) sometimes certain releases break certain games. Secondly , if your running alot of backround apps while playing wow that will also effect it. If your running an ass load of interface mods in wow disable them and see if that helps any. If you havent also download a good driver cleaner and make sure that isnt effecting your frame rate either.
 
icxnamjah said:
After some testing and swapping my 8800gtx back in I noticed that the image quality with the 9800 gx2 is superior
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I think that's only difference in drivers unless you're meaning increasing AA vs. a single GTXs settings? Otherwise [H] and others would have stated it so in their reviews between the cards.
I'd suggest doing as Godmachine posted. Try different driver versions.

I think it was SirBaron @ Rage3D's forum posting similar performance complaints about WOW and GX2. I tried doing a search for the thread but came up empty.
Might be worth joining Rage3D and sending him a PM to see what he ended up doing to fix it.
 
thanks for the responses.

I ran WoW disabling all my addons and had only a 2 fps boost.

I turned off everything in the background although like I mentioned, every other game runs like butter that are way, way more graphic intensive than WoW.

It could be a driver issue, but I read nowhere online that the latest drivers are problematic with WoW.

I use the same exact in game graphic settings for both cards and right now for WoW, 8800 gtx > gx2 using the same drivers. *both cards use the same drivers for vista 32 bit btw

I reinstalled the drivers using a licensed copy of driver cleaner. Uninstalled drivers in windows, booted into safe mode, cleaned my drivers, rebooted into windows, canceled detect new hardware and installed forceware version 175.16 drivers and rebooted once again. No change :(

Trying to find a way around this without having to go thru 7 discs of reinstalling, + patching, + redoing my entire UI as the config file is probably a culprit to my fps woes :T

If your an avid wow player you can understand the pain of doing this. It's worse than reformatting your PC 5 times in a row.

Thanks for the help though. Will look into rage3d forums as I am glad I am not the only one having this issue.
 
changed wow settings to single gpu option in nvidia control panel

bam, fps went up like crazy. Sigh, blizz give WoW some SLI loving...

Sorry to waste everyone's time :(
 
icxnamjah said:
Hey guys, just slapped in a 9800 gx2 and I want to cry.

Crysis runs fine at 1680 x 1050 at very high settings

Unreal Tournament 3 runs like butter with maxed out settings @ 1680 x 1050

Counter Strike Source, TF2, etc...all run like a dream ...but

World of Warcraft just suffers. I also noticed when logging into the game world, the load time increased by at least 2 x.

Can anyone help me out with this problem? WoW is the game I play the most and its just almost unplayable.

Thanks in advance.
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Were you running in windowed mode? I can play full screen and get like 100fps in shatt bank. But when I switch windowed mode my fps drops to like 20-30fps and loading time was bad. Don't see why you would have to switch to 1gpu to fix your problem.
 
I'd like to point out that using a 9800GX2 for anything less than a resolution of 1920x1200 is probably a bad idea. At anything less you won't see the bennefits from SLI. So as a result the card will perform almost exactly like a 8800GT 512MB card would. You are only reaping the bennefit of half the GPU power in the card. At lower resolutions a 8800GTX should out perform the 9800GX2 because it isn't dependent on SLI scalability for its' performance.

World of Warcraft has also been known to suck with SLI since day one. Why anyone would depend on SLI for performance in that game is beyond me. Anyone buying a 9800GX2 for running games at 1680x1050 probably didn't do enough research before purchasing the card. It's nice to have the best card on the block but the fact is right now things aren't so clear in regard to which card is best. The 9800GX2 is best under certain specific circumstances but in others the 8800Ultra is really still the king. However the 8800GTS 512MB was faster than the Ultra, but not at super high resolutions.
The 9800GX2 is the fastest single card out right now but at lower resolutions I can see how it could fall below 8800GTX/8800Ultra/8800GTS 512MB levels.
 
Disable SLI in wow... a single G92 will beat the snot out of that game
edit: beat me to it.
 
I want sli because yea I do get over 100 fps standing around...

But, I want 100 fps while raiding sunwell. Even with the 8800gtx i would dip below 20 fps when we are raiding Brutallas as graphically, that boss still looks amazing and with 25 people doing their thang, the boss doing his thang, and the boss' room effects, spell effects going off everywhere, etc...all kill the fps pretty bad.

I want SLI to be working so I can have over 100 fps while all that is happening on screen, feel me?

Thanks for the help.

And SLI works WONDERS even at 1650 x 1050 in all those games that I mentioned.

I saw literally a 100% boost in frames (over the 8800 gtx) with the source engine at even higher settings with the gx2 (I am tallking about hitting the 300 fps mark in a bright area with npcs walking around. TF2 at the absolute highest settings runs at a consistent 150-250 fps during the most intense action. HL2 with the 9800 gx2 plays like HL1 did using a 6800 Ultra - it's over kill).

This card slaps the crap out of UT 3. Of course I know that the unreal 3 engine is such a sexy engine that it looks great on any setup, but to deliver a silky butter smooth fps of over 150-200 at the absolute max settings with physics all turned on is impressive.

Crysis plays without a single stutter at that resolution and I was able to even add some AA to it while the 8800gtx was not able to even produce decent FPS at that resolution when the action got intense, so yes I did my research before I bought it.

Reviewers can't really benchmark WoW, but I hoped it would still be much better than the 8800 gtx in a raiding environment.

forgot to mention that with multi gpu setting turned on, the problem still occurs at full screen and windowed mode. :(

I know there are people who got this to work in WoW. I need to find the solution somehow. Once again, thanks for all the responses.
 
I really think the problem is with WoW, someone on WoW forums says he's not impressed with his 9800GX2 performance either but ONLY in WoW.
 
icxnamjah said:
I want sli because yea I do get over 100 fps standing around...

But, I want 100 fps while raiding sunwell. Even with the 8800gtx i would dip below 20 fps when we are raiding Brutallas as graphically, that boss still looks amazing and with 25 people doing their thang, the boss doing his thang, and the boss' room effects, spell effects going off everywhere, etc...all kill the fps pretty bad.

I want SLI to be working so I can have over 100 fps while all that is happening on screen, feel me?

Thanks for the help.

And SLI works WONDERS even at 1650 x 1050 in all those games that I mentioned.

I saw literally a 100% boost in frames (over the 8800 gtx) with the source engine at even higher settings with the gx2 (I am tallking about hitting the 300 fps mark in a bright area with npcs walking around. TF2 at the absolute highest settings runs at a consistent 150-250 fps during the most intense action. HL2 with the 9800 gx2 plays like HL1 did using a 6800 Ultra - it's over kill).

This card slaps the crap out of UT 3. Of course I know that the unreal 3 engine is such a sexy engine that it looks great on any setup, but to deliver a silky butter smooth fps of over 150-200 at the absolute max settings with physics all turned on is impressive.

Crysis plays without a single stutter at that resolution and I was able to even add some AA to it while the 8800gtx was not able to even produce decent FPS at that resolution when the action got intense, so yes I did my research before I bought it.

Reviewers can't really benchmark WoW, but I hoped it would still be much better than the 8800 gtx in a raiding environment.

forgot to mention that with multi gpu setting turned on, the problem still occurs at full screen and windowed mode. :(

I know there are people who got this to work in WoW. I need to find the solution somehow. Once again, thanks for all the responses.
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WoW is really bad game to try to benchmark with. I raid sunwell also and I don't get 100fps during fights. I'd say I get around 40-70 depending on much action is going on.
 
man i would be happy with 70 dps in sunwell dude, I just can't figure this out. I have the EVGA super over clocked one (675 mhtz). What brand do you use?
 
Hmm, sorry I must of have sig turned off.

Your on vista 64. Perhaps maybe because I am on 32 bit there is a problem? I highly doubt it though. I think i will just have to suck it up and reinstall.
 
icxnamjah said:
Hmm, sorry I must of have sig turned off.

Your on vista 64. Perhaps maybe because I am on 32 bit there is a problem? I highly doubt it though. I think i will just have to suck it up and reinstall.
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Your sig is old. Update it. I should hope you aren't running a S939 and 1GB of DDR with a 9800GX2.
 
yea its 3.8 years old.

Current set up : q6700 @ 3.3 ghtz, 4 gigs of corsair ddr2 (4 x 1 gig) @ 1066 mhtz, 780i mobo on a 1k watt silverstone PSU (plenty of power for the card). I want at least a smooth 60 fps during raids! Sigh....

reinstalled with no addons made no difference. As soon as I enabled multi-gpu, the game goes to crap.
 
SLI has always been broken with WoW. Just force it in to single GPU mode with the profiles, and yell at Blizzard and Nvidia. Not much else to be done.
 
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