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8900 coming or not??
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Knowing NVIDIA they probably have a stockpile of 8900 cards in a warehouse, just waiting to spoil ATI's R600 party.
Since they have no direct competition with the 8800 cards from ATI right now, they want people to believe that there is no 8900. If people knew the 8900s were coming in 34 days, they would be less likely to buy an 8800 right now and it would hurt sales. Since NVIDIA owns the high end market right now, the game is a little different than in recent years. This is all pure speculation, but I do believe it.
Since they have no direct competition with the 8800 cards from ATI right now, they want people to believe that there is no 8900. If people knew the 8900s were coming in 34 days, they would be less likely to buy an 8800 right now and it would hurt sales. Since NVIDIA owns the high end market right now, the game is a little different than in recent years. This is all pure speculation, but I do believe it.
i recommend waiting. you know... good things come to those who....
Yeah, tomorrow
You can spend your life waiting for new technology, just make a good buying decision based on whats available now, stuff thats already been exhaustively tested and you know is good bang for your buck.
And I'm with you there. I've said this myself (though not in the exact same words). NVIDIA's been so quiet lately. They must be doing something to spoil the long delayed launch of R600. They already have their mid-range cards in the market and the remainder of their DX10 cards, will be released in May, along with the supposed launch of R600.
The 8900's might be their response. A 80 nm G80, with 1 GB of GDDR4 and who knows what new features/improvements, will make it an extremely appealing card, for the ultra high-end. This also means lower prices for current cards, which is excellent, considering I'm thinking about buying one
Well heres the question of the day....
If there is any possibility of an 8900, it'll probably have GDDR4, how much are you willing to pay?
I read just recently ATi delayed the R600 XTX model due to the cost of using GDDR4, not sure if that is true or not.
If there is any possibility of an 8900, it'll probably have GDDR4, how much are you willing to pay?
I read just recently ATi delayed the R600 XTX model due to the cost of using GDDR4, not sure if that is true or not.
That's nothing new really. I've often said, in the ATI sub-forum, that a +700 million transistor chip, coupled with a 512 bit memory bus and 1 GB GDDR4, would NOT be a cheap thing to do. So some of news/rumors, pointing to a short supply of the R600 XTX model, just make alot of sense.
The 8900 however, if it exists, will be released, after the R600 launch, which means GDDR4 prices will be lower. Either that or it will not use GDDR4 at all.
G90 will probably be the first NVIDIA chip, to use GDDR4 from the start.
Yeah, tomorrow
You can spend your life waiting for new technology, just make a good buying decision based on whats available now, stuff thats already been exhaustively tested and you know is good bang for your buck.
I agree...but some people would rather just wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...
nissanztt90
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The Inquirer posted about the 8900s coming in may. 8900GX2, GTX, GT, GS. Most have GDDR4. Is The Inquirer considered a worthless resource around here? Ive seen it elsewhere too.
Perhaps the nicest way I've seen that put around here.
But you are pretty much correct. Well, if GDDR4 is expensive, and the 8900's will be available shortly after the R600 XTX release, that means that nVidia is also paying a lot of money for the memory too (since they have to building the suckers now to have it available in quantities soon) and therefore the 8900 will probably be almost as expensive as the ATI part. Just deducing based on everyone's comments.
To which I say to the OP, wait as long as possible (as if I had to say that
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Why would they put out an 8900 right now when they have yet to launch the 8800 Ultra. Dell has already released the specks to the 8800 Ultra by accident last week.
WORD...
nissanztt90
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Well, im pretty sure im going to wait til the die shrink/G90.
From the leaked Dell info(if true) it seems to me anyone with a current G80( 8800gtx/gts) would be foolish to buy an 8800 Ultra for such little gain in clock/mem speeds. I'll be building new system in the fall consisting hopefully a new Penryn/Barcelona cpu (possibly if its out by then and better than Penryn) and the G90 (8900ultra/gtx).
Yeh i am thinking the same thing...i think i am gonna stick with my 8800GTS and not even use the step up
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EVGA has something called a step up program. You buy one of there cards, and if something better is released within 90 days of your purchase, you pay the price differential for the new card, and you get the new card after you send your "old" one back.
Or better yet DX10 gaming..
torrey.smith
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Will the 8900 work with a current socket 775 mobo? Re-phrase: will it be pcie?
Other question: how does this new card compare with the Quadro series of CAD cards? Do the Quadro cards trail the gaming cards?
Other question: how does this new card compare with the Quadro series of CAD cards? Do the Quadro cards trail the gaming cards?
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Its called stepup, and its the amount of days they have left until they can trade in their cards.
CAD cards trail greatly in gaming. they are faster than crap but they just dont push data the same way gaming GPU's do. different architecture. you might get a real nice screenshot
agreed.
i am hoping they do the same with the 8900 as they did with the 7900, ie not cripple the GT versions by disabling quads.
an 8900GT sporting 128 SP's @ 500MHz coupled with 768MB of 384bit memory @ 1600MHz would go down a treat!
heh the step up program is either your best friend or worst enemy. I ordered a 7950 gx2 from newegg on Aug 5th, 2006 making my step up window close on Nov 5th, 2006, On Nov 8th, the 8800 series was released. I was so pissed! I still can't get over it to this day. I called and they wouldn't do anything about it. I was very polite too but he told me it's not a 93 day step up, it's a 90 day. What an a$$ he was. I was shocked at the response considering how good evga has been to me in the past. Anybody could survive without sleep or food for 3 days. If it was a just another faster 7 series card, I'd get over it, but finding out I missed out on the next generation of a direct x 10 graphics card by 3 days made it tough to get over it. What I really hated was, ever since Aug 5th, I' carefully watched every day one by one telling myself okay 89 days left, okay now 88 days left and so on and so on and it couldn't have ended any worse than it did. I think evga should keep it 90 days, and privately hook anybody up that missed it by as much as 5 days to relieve the stress on knowing you just missed out on a $600 upgrade. I'm not one of those people who take everything for granite and can afford a new $600 graphics card everytime one is released so this was a real kick in the nuts for me. Good luck man!
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Does this stepup program cover a card bought from any vendor? It doesn't appear as if I will be able to get the card I want from NewEgg.
I was going to get a pair of superclocked 8800gtx's from the Egg. I had the cards on my wishlist there. NewEgg had ETA of 4/30 for the cards as of this afternoon. I just checked my wishlist and the items were removed! NewEgg does not show that item as something that they carry anymore! I guess this means EVGA has stopped making the card??? And if they have, this means the next card will be released soon????
I was going to get a pair of superclocked 8800gtx's from the Egg. I had the cards on my wishlist there. NewEgg had ETA of 4/30 for the cards as of this afternoon. I just checked my wishlist and the items were removed! NewEgg does not show that item as something that they carry anymore! I guess this means EVGA has stopped making the card??? And if they have, this means the next card will be released soon????
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Laws no! eVGA offers the step-up to people who bought one of THEIR cards--it's a brand-loyalty incentive.
That doesnt mean there is an 8900 coming out though.
Hey I live in Birmingham too.
Sinister Crayon
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Run over them in monster trucks?
probably uses them as RMA cards
Sinister Crayon
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that item on the Inq has me miffed too, i could care less about the XTX, i dont fancy spending north of 500 bucks on a card, but the 2600 has me interested, and from the looks of it it will take another month to even see them on sale
which in turn would let some pressure of nvidia so they wont release any potential 8900GS anytime soon....
but then again, it was also the inq who said the 8600GTS wouldnt launch untill next monday....
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I hope there is an 8900 GTX with in the next 66 days....