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Kramerican

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Hey, I just set up my new computer a few days ago and to be honest I was a little surprised with the 8800gtx performance. In Half Life 2 1600x1024 and recommended/high settings I was getting from 130-280 fps. Which, don't get me wrong, is more than enough. But I was expecting in the 300-400 range, after all the card was $600... For all you other 8800gtx owners, is this normal, or should I be expecting more? I havn't been able to install any other games yet, due to a bios problem with my mobo. Ill be getting a new one soon. If you have an 8800gtx and play HL2 please post your average framerate. Thanks
 
Core 2 Duo E6700
Evga nForce 680i A1 mobo
Evga 8800gtx superclocked
Corsair xms2 DDR-2 800
OCZ GameXstream 700w PSU
Vista Home Premium
Lian-li v1000b plus II
 
sounds normal to me. Run the CS:S stress test and post your results. But personally hl2 is so cpu intensive I wouldn't be surprised if you are more "monitor bottlenecked." peace.
 
Install Oblivion
Put everything to max
Install Qarl's Texture Pack 3

Stare in amazement. After that, you'll think your investment was worth it :D
 
ZacharyS said:
Install Oblivion
Put everything to max
Install Qarl's Texture Pack 3

Stare in amazement. After that, you'll think your investment was worth it :D
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that's what I'm hoping for, and that's the reason I bought a GTX (and possibly another in the not too distant future).
 
Kramerican said:
Hey, I just set up my new computer a few days ago and to be honest I was a little surprised with the 8800gtx performance. In Half Life 2 1600x1024 and recommended/high settings I was getting from 130-280 fps. Which, don't get me wrong, is more than enough. But I was expecting in the 300-400 range, after all the card was $600... For all you other 8800gtx owners, is this normal, or should I be expecting more? I havn't been able to install any other games yet, due to a bios problem with my mobo. Ill be getting a new one soon. If you have an 8800gtx and play HL2 please post your average framerate. Thanks
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I see you're running Vista. That may be part of your problem.
 
Commander Suzdal said:
I see you're running Vista. That may be part of your problem.
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Yea maybe, I do have another hard drive used on my previous computer lying around with xp installed on it that I used to use. Can I just connect that to the mobo, and update drivers? Or will I have to do a fresh install of xp? thanks
 
I would do a clean install of XP. Also, SLI wont do 600$ worth of performance for you at that resolution.
 
Yeah, go back to XP Pro, and see what happens. Also HL2 tends to be CPU bound. Try other games like BF2142, FEAR, and so on.
 
why bother???
i have been using window vista since it released in jan 2007

i havn't got much problem from it..
yes i may get like 10-15% slower in performance then in winxp..
but it doesn't bother me at all
as all my games still run smoothly

unless it really bother you..( choppy gameplay)
then why not just stay with win vista??
 
with a lil overclocking i hit 10K in 3dMark06 in Vista, thats damn good for me (is that score normal tho?:confused: )
 
Man 300 fps makes such a big different when I play HL2, I get waaayyyyy more headshots on that lil crabs...
 
Kramerican said:
1600x1024
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What monitor you using? You'll be more impressed when you scale up the resolution and also increase the control panel option too. CS:S gungame is really smooth at 1920x1200 8xAA/16xAF Though the shadows are too dark.
 
Vista may not be quite as nice as Windows XP right now in terms of game performance, but I have found that I get great performance in Vista anyway. So right now I will stick with it personally.

Another thing that I'd like to mention is that the 8800GTX's are very powerful and you won't realize it's full potential until you can take it to higher resolutions.
 
The human eye can notice something like 10 FPS and lower.
Anyways...
You need to get a bigger monitor.
 
I'm kind of wondering what kind of resolution 1600x1024 is too. That's what, a 25:16 aspect ratio? Did you mean 1600x1200?

As everyone else is saying, getting FPS up in the 300-400 range would require a ridiculous CPU. An 8800GTX is overkill for CS:S in general. you could easily be playing at 1920x1200 8X/16X like another poster said, if not higher.

Anyway, Vista has been as good as XP for me since the 158.18 drivers. If you're running anything older, I'd suggest you try them.
 
The Source Engine is Capped at 300fps anyways. your framerate is really good, it could be higher but it does not depend on your GPU.

The only reason why you dont have 300fps steady is because Physics calculation and AI raycasts loading your CPU.....
 
Never f-ing mind the fact that the most eyes cant perciece anything over 60is fps anyway....
 
Oh please. If you'd ever seen a game running below 60 fps, at 60fps and above 60 fps you would know that there is a difference. I found DoD much easier when I could keep my FPS solidly around 100fps than floating around 60fps
 
Archbob said:
I know, the jump from 280fps to 300fps is a huge improvement!
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You guys that are being sarcastic aren't really grasping what I'm telling you. Above 70 fps is excellent for me! All I'm trying to do is make sure my card isn't defective, which it sounds like its not. I'm not complaining about my frame rates.

Monitor
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Scepter X20WG 1680x1050
I was playing at full resolution, sorry if I got the resolution wrong before.
 
Kramerican said:
Hey, I just set up my new computer a few days ago and to be honest I was a little surprised with the 8800gtx performance. In Half Life 2 1600x1024 and recommended/high settings I was getting from 130-280 fps. Which, don't get me wrong, is more than enough. But I was expecting in the 300-400 range, after all the card was $600... For all you other 8800gtx owners, is this normal, or should I be expecting more? I havn't been able to install any other games yet, due to a bios problem with my mobo. Ill be getting a new one soon. If you have an 8800gtx and play HL2 please post your average framerate. Thanks
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Yimineeeee! Maybe you should wait for the new ATI cards. I hear they can do 300,000 fps and need a nuclear power plant to fuel them.

Cripes, your eye can't even discern the difference at over something like 60 fps.... man, whachu want?:eek:
 
If all you want is 60fps, there is no reason for 8800GTX to exist.

We buy these cards for ridiculous prices just so we KNOW we have the power. It doesn't matter at all what is NEEDED for a game. It's what is WANTED.

Why put together a car with hundreds of HP and the ability to accelerate to 100mph in just a few seconds when the speed limit is 65? Because we can.
 
Jerukoth said:
If all you want is 60fps, there is no reason for 8800GTX to exist.
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There are games a single 8800GTX can not run on native res on a 30inch LCD with 4XAA/16XAF or higher at 60FPS or better.

This is the reason the 8800GTX and SLI exist. Not to run CS:S at 300FPS.
 
You're CPU limited at 1600x1200. Your CPU probably can't put out 300-400fps on a game such as HL2.

Besides, no one runs a monitor at 400hz, so who cares?

I run the original Unreal Tournament and I get around 270fps or so, but I don't really care. Sometimes it's the GPU or CPU has the power, but the game itself limits the FPS for physics/audio sync reasons.
 
MrMike said:
There are games a single 8800GTX can not run on native res on a 30inch LCD with 4XAA/16XAF or higher at 60FPS or better.

This is the reason the 8800GTX and SLI exist. Not to run CS:S at 300FPS.
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QFT!

Many people do not own such hardware and then of course comment on how it isn't needed. Trust me, the experience is something special. Unfortunately it requires alot of cash to have such things. In any case, the post I quoted above is absolutely correct. There are some games where one 8800GTX isn't enough at the 30" panels native resolution.

When new games like Crysis come out, it most certainly won't be enough. SLI will more than likely be required to pull it off. Even then I have my doubts about that too. I suspect we'll be scaling the resolution back until the next great video card revolution hits. Anyone who has purchased a 30" monitor and plays games on it has really committed (whether they know it or not) to buying two new graphics cards every six months to a year.
 
A little tangent:
You guys are saying that the 8800gtx is cpu limited in some cases. I'm just curious where that line is drawn?
Lets say on a resoltuion of 1920 x 1200 w/ full game settings.
For either side what are we looking at:

Intel: ?
AMD: ?

I'm just looking for a general numbers.

Thanks
Bob
 
Demon_of_The_Fall said:
Oh please. If you'd ever seen a game running below 60 fps, at 60fps and above 60 fps you would know that there is a difference. I found DoD much easier when I could keep my FPS solidly around 100fps than floating around 60fps
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Ok and you know most monitors run at a refresh rate of 60hz, which means your eyes wont see above 60fps anyway?
 
Proxy said:
Yeah, go back to XP Pro, and see what happens. Also HL2 tends to be CPU bound. Try other games like BF2142, FEAR, and so on.
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agree with what he said. Vista will drop your gaming down a lot!!
I duel boot and this make life soo much nicer :D
 
Going from XP Professional to Vista has made a difference in terms of FRAPS numbers, but in terms of real world performance I haven't noticed anything significant.
 
FlowGaming said:
agree with what he said. Vista will drop your gaming down a lot!!
I duel boot and this make life soo much nicer :D
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But can't you only access the programs installed on the OS you installed it on? I was thinking about a dual boot...Atleast until vista gets better. I only got vista because it was half price at a local store going out of business. But I guess If I wanted to do that I'd have to pay another $100+.
 
you can run games installed on the XP partition from vista, but unless they are on 2 seperate physical HDs you might get a lot of thrashing.
 
Kramerican said:
Well im waiting for a new mobo, but when I get it I will...when I find out how...
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The GTX wasn't created to run games like HL2 @ 300-400fps it was created to run games like Stalker in HDR and full AA/AF, games that make for a challenge. Believe me when I say there is no way you'll ever see a difference in a game like HL2 on a GTX, at 270fps, why would you even need to upgrade anything over 40-60fps is pretty much just null and void, you really woln't see a real difference to the naked eye.

Sure we can boast that the 3DMark score will be higher oh whoopie! Something I can't even play!!! Yay!

The GTX is the prime card out right now that can play ANY game at your resolution with every single setting maxed out. Thats what you paid for, not for it to run HL2 an extra 100fps that you woln't even see a difference in.

Try putting Fear at it's absolute max setting and running it. HL2 engine is just dated and a card like the 8800GTX just doesn't show it's true power. :eek:
 
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