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If you want to join the ranks of the cool kids with one of those nifty DirectX 10 cards for promoting Vista shenanigans, but don't want to sell any vital internal organs to purchase a GeForce 8800 GTX or one of those upcoming ATI R600 cards, then you might be happy to hear that the price of entry is about to get a whole lot cheaper. Details of NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce 8600 series have been revealed, with the 8600 GT going for roughly $150 and the 8600 Ultra demanding a $180 pricetag. Considering the fact that an 8800 GTX will cost you about $600 at the moment, this is good news indeed. The specs aren't anything to sneeze at, either, with both 8600 cards being built with an 80nm process and 300 million transistors. The GT runs at 350MHz, with 256MB of RAM to call its own, while the Ultra sports a 500MHz core, with 512MB of memory. The launch is supposedly timed to coincide with the R600's launch, will certainly steal a bit of ATI's thunder.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/nvidias-geforce-8600-series-brings-dx10-without-breaking-the-ba/
 
Wonder how wide the memory bus will be. I'm guessing it will be 256bit since it they are 256/512. Judging from the layout the memory must be snuggled right up next to the GPU.

How many stream processors enabled? I'll guess.. 64. They are budget cards after all.
 
If the information here is true:
http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4834

Then the 8600 GT looks a little gimped:
48 SP, core 350 MHz, memory 1200 MHz, 256 MB, 128-bit, $149

However the 8600 Ultra looks like a real bang-for-buck budget sweet spot.
64 SP, core 500 MHz, memory 1400 MHz, 512 MB, 256-bit, $179
 
One thing I want to know is if these are going to be availible in low profile. I'm just curious :D
 
lol, the heatsink on that thing is 1/10th the size of an 88 series cooler :)
 
Any idea on the performance? I'm wondering if I should sell my X1950Pro, but am hesitant due to the current Vista scandal.
 
If the 8800gts doesn't drop below 300 by the time the 8600ultra comes out, then I might get the 8600ultra. I know prices won't drop that low anytime soon.
 
MrSneis said:
lol, the heatsink on that thing is 1/10th the size of an 88 series cooler :)
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Torquemada XP said:
Oh, please be a quiet little fan...
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The 8600 is supposed to be pin-compatible with the 7600/6600. One of nVidia's considerations was to make it a drop-in replacement, so the 8600GT will share the 6600GT's PCB. That also includes the heatsink. I don't know about the Ultra, but I'm guessing it'll get the same one also.

Hmm, curious to see if the rumors are true re: G81. I'm torn between an 8600 Ultra and 8900GS, and would rather wait for the 8900GS.

And the usual SLI question comes up again: spec-wise, it looks like two 8600GT's will be a pretty close call with an 8800GTS/320, and same thing with the Ultra/GTS640 matchup. My money's still on the GTS's, though.
 
Help me understand this here guys: If I understand this right, the 8600Ultra will have 64 SP's, 512MB ram DDR3, 256bit bus. My 7900GTO has 24 pipelines (is this the same as SP's?) 512mb ram, and a 256bus. Are SP's the same as pipelines? If not, how many pipelines does this card have? Thanks
 
newls1 said:
Help me understand this here guys: If I understand this right, the 8600Ultra will have 64 SP's, 512MB ram DDR3, 256bit bus. My 7900GTO has 24 pipelines (is this the same as SP's?) 512mb ram, and a 256bus. Are SP's the same as pipelines? If not, how many pipelines does this card have? Thanks
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SP's and Pipelines cannot be compared. The 8600Ultra is a very different architecture then that of your 7900GTO. I realize that answer sucks but its true. I would expect the 8600Ultra to be faster.
 
Cali3350 said:
SP's and Pipelines cannot be compared. The 8600Ultra is a very different architecture then that of your 7900GTO. I realize that answer sucks but its true. I would expect the 8600Ultra to be faster.
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Really:eek: :eek: I cant wait to get my hands on one.
 
I really can't wait to see some benchmarks on the Ultra... if its at least 20-30% faster than my current card - I'm in...
 
Blu-Flames said:
If you want to join the ranks of the cool kids with one of those nifty DirectX 10 cards for promoting Vista shenanigans, but don't want to sell any vital internal organs to purchase a GeForce 8800 GTX or one of those upcoming ATI R600 cards, then you might be happy to hear that the price of entry is about to get a whole lot cheaper. Details of NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce 8600 series have been revealed, with the 8600 GT going for roughly $150 and the 8600 Ultra demanding a $180 pricetag. Considering the fact that an 8800 GTX will cost you about $600 at the moment, this is good news indeed. The specs aren't anything to sneeze at, either, with both 8600 cards being built with an 80nm process and 300 million transistors. The GT runs at 350MHz, with 256MB of RAM to call its own, while the Ultra sports a 500MHz core, with 512MB of memory. The launch is supposedly timed to coincide with the R600's launch, will certainly steal a bit of ATI's thunder.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/nvidias-geforce-8600-series-brings-dx10-without-breaking-the-ba/
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Um.. The article is from the 2nd of February. Way to bring up news that's almost 3 weeks old.
 
this is probably my next card seeing that my last two were 6600 and 7600

no reason to break the trend... 8600ultra here i come (once you're on the FS forum for $100 ;) )
 
The 8600 looks downright tasty. I also was waiting on the 8900 GTS but at that price point Im tempted tp cheap out, go 8600 Ultra and then just upgrade it in 1 year when DX10 has been fleshed out hardware and driver wise.

As it stands the 8600 Ultra looks like it could probably be OCed to near 8800 GTS speeds and with 512MB of ram, its the Value Card in terms of Bang for the Buck. Actual reviews will tell but Id be surprised if it could not be pumped up abit to cross the threshold of GTS power. In many ways it seems to be cannablizing the lower end GTS. Again, actual reviews may tell a diff story.

Wonder how ATI will react to this one. Im starting to think NV is really going for the jugular, a bad thing. Dont get me wrong, I was cheering and hootin when the TNT/Geforce/GF2 conquered 3dfx; but then I was miserable at that lame 15% improvements per card generation afterwards.
 
You know, sometimes I wonder if these companies dont intentionally release false leaks to gauage consumer reaction. That way they can tweak things to max out their price per product. I certianlyl would consider it if I was in ther shoes. Dunno if it would be technically feasilble though
 
Chances are it'll cream my 6800GS, think I may upgrade when those babys come out.
 
dracop said:
You know, sometimes I wonder if these companies dont intentionally release false leaks to gauage consumer reaction. That way they can tweak things to max out their price per product. I certianlyl would consider it if I was in ther shoes. Dunno if it would be technically feasilble though
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Im sure they do all the time. If you can think it, their advisors have probably recommended it thus, they've already done it. Thought provoking none-the-less though :)
 
skudmunky said:
Chances are it'll cream my 6800GS, think I may upgrade when those babys come out.
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Hell, I just upgraded from an XFX 6800GS "XXX" edition to a PNY 7900GT and the 7900GT at stock speeds simply stomps all over the highly overclocked 6800GS. Being able to activate full AA and AS makes for an unbeleivable difference. I'm interested in seeing how this 8600Ultra stands up to a 7900GT. :)
 
jcll2002 said:
im not going to say anything until we actually see some benchies
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Exactly. The specs of that 8600 Ultra sound out-of-place, and would befit an 8800 GS more than an 8600 series. Even if that's a real product, the price is WAY too low, especially when you consider that R600 isn't even out yet!

Right now, it's just speculation.
 
I only have one concern now. What will be the performance of the 8600 series with DX10 games. Since there isn't one game that we can benchmark/compare between different cards.
 
GPUCommando said:
I really can't wait to see some benchmarks on the Ultra... if its at least 20-30% faster than my current card - I'm in...
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If it's that much faster than your card, I may have to fight the urge to get one (considering mine is an X1800GTO @ 685/765). I'm interested in whether or not the 8600 can be pencil modded though :D I just love the software volt modding in my card. Beats my VR's on the ol' 9700 Pro any day.
 
PliotronX said:
If it's that much faster than your card, I may have to fight the urge to get one (considering mine is an X1800GTO @ 685/765). I'm interested in whether or not the 8600 can be pencil modded though :D I just love the software volt modding in my card. Beats my VR's on the ol' 9700 Pro any day.
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Yeah - I was like 685 core on a GTO?? Good ol' volt modding :cool:

Any unlocked pipes too? If so, you got lucky as hell.
 
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