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8 core intel ??

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This question has probley allready been answered but for somereason im unable to find any info on it. Will 2011 have an 8 core 16 thread cpu all ive been able to find is a 6 core.
 
I know xeon will have an 8 core 16 thread however will SB-E? Or do we have to wait for IB-E?
 
Xeon IS SB-E. Desktop is limited to 6 cores though, but you probably can grab the 8-core Xeon and stick it in any desktop board - no overclocking however, and no ECC memory either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Server_processors

115W to 150W depending on clock speed. E5-2670 will probably the most common 8-core, with a decent 115W TDP and a respectable 2.6 GHz clock speed (compare that to Beckton or Westmere-EX - you can get better binned chips there, at a massive premium).
 
Jbort1984 said:
This question has probley allready been answered but for somereason im unable to find any info on it. Will 2011 have an 8 core 16 thread cpu all ive been able to find is a 6 core.
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According to http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sandy-bridge-e-xeon-cpu-servers,13308.html there is going to be a number of 8-core 16 thread SB-E xeon processors. However the headline clockspeed of the fastest 8-core is only 3.1 GHz, it's not clear what if any turbo it will have and being a xeon I would expect it to be multiplier locked.
 
I would be really dissapointed if no 8/16 desktop consumer CPU's come out for SB-E.

Even if they are priced very high.
 
i doubt we will see them unless they were needed. we could have had an 8 core already, there is a 8 core xeon that could have been touted as a ee chip. unless there is a genuine need i don't think they will waste there time. need to be able to sell them first.
 
Crest said:
I would be really dissapointed if no 8/16 desktop consumer CPU's come out for SB-E.

Even if they are priced very high.
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Well ya be disappointed then. SB-E will only have 6 core parts. The top end 6 core part maxes out the TDP that intel has said is the highest it would put out for consumer cards at barely over 3ghz. So if there were to be an 8 core SB-E chip it would probably come in at like 2.2ghz or something which would be stupid and pointless. IB-1155 won't have 8 core either.

As stated, for 8 core consumer chips you will need to wait for IB-E which will be out at the earliest maybe Q4 2011 but more likely to be 2013. They gotta move it to the new 22nm process to pack the 8 cores at a decent speed under their self-set consumer TDP limits.
 
modulus said:
Well ya be disappointed then. SB-E will only have 6 core parts. The top end 6 core part maxes out the TDP that intel has said is the highest it would put out for consumer cards at barely over 3ghz. So if there were to be an 8 core SB-E chip it would probably come in at like 2.2ghz or something which would be stupid and pointless. IB-1155 won't have 8 core either.

As stated, for 8 core consumer chips you will need to wait for IB-E which will be out at the earliest maybe Q4 2011 but more likely to be 2013. They gotta move it to the new 22nm process to pack the 8 cores at a decent speed under their self-set consumer TDP limits.
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All IB chips will be 22nm...
 
Pitbull said:
All IB chips will be 22nm...
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From what I read I do not think modulus was in disagreement with that. The point was that at 32nm Intel can not clock its 8 core / 16 threaded processor high enough to be a good desktop processor and stay under 130W.
 
modulus said:
So if there were to be an 8 core SB-E chip it would probably come in at like 2.2ghz or something which would be stupid and pointless. IB-1155 won't have 8 core either.
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So why can there be a Xeon with 8 cores and a 3.1GHz clock speed on a 150W TDP and not an i7?
 
iconiK said:
So why can there be a Xeon with 8 cores and a 3.1GHz clock speed on a 150W TDP and not an i7?
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Xeon's are put into server and workstation boards where a significant majority are certified for that kind of power draw. Enthusiast Desktop boards can easily handle them also, but that is a tiny segment of the market. Therefore Intel limits the desktop side to cater to the larger crowd. If they put them out, OEM's wouldn't be likely to purchase them either since they would have to spend more on motherboards, power supplies, and cooling, which cuts into their already tiny profit margin.
 
There's also a bunch of lower end 8 core xeons coming starting with 70W TDP parts all the way up to 150.

While they have rather bad stock speeds there's a chance they will work in 2011 mobos anyway and then we could do a bit of oc magic on them ;)
 
CaptNumbNutz said:
Xeon's are put into server and workstation boards where a significant majority are certified for that kind of power draw. Enthusiast Desktop boards can easily handle them also, but that is a tiny segment of the market. Therefore Intel limits the desktop side to cater to the larger crowd. If they put them out, OEM's wouldn't be likely to purchase them either since they would have to spend more on motherboards, power supplies, and cooling, which cuts into their already tiny profit margin.
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OEMs don't really buy enthusiast boards with 500 overclocking features and quad SLI support. The few that do specialize in this category of users and would LOVE a 200W 8-core 3.6GHz processor; hell the motherboards are built to handle 400-500W, some even 1000W for the CPU alone, and serious air coolers can handle 200W easily - not to say that most enthusiast computers are water cooled.

Intel probably won't release an 8-core now in order to milk the enthusiasts more with IB-E, when they want them to upgrade to 8 cores.


Michaelius said:
There's also a bunch of lower end 8 core xeons coming starting with 70W TDP parts all the way up to 150.

While they have rather bad stock speeds there's a chance they will work in 2011 mobos anyway and then we could do a bit of oc magic on them ;)
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It's probably better to buy one of those highly-binned 8-core Xeon processors, as they will overclock far better than a desktop chip with high clocks but a LOT higher TDP - if SB-E allows overclocking of multiplier-locked chips (it probably does, can't remember).
 
It does in iirc 25 Mhz steps so 125 150 175 200 bus.

I hope intel will release one of lower speed 6 core xeons for 350-400 $
 
Michaelius said:
I hope intel will release one of lower speed 6 core xeons for 350-400 $
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Juding from past experience with 1366, probably yes, as well as a lower speed 8-core for the same price with IB-E. E5520, E5620, E5645 come to mind - great value chips. Wanna bet Intel will have equivalents of them in the E5 line?
 
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