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Both reference? 290.
Except its not equal. The 780 cost $100 more than the 290. My advice, buy the 780 (obviously, you are not paying full price). Sell it to one of those nvidia suckers who cares so much about a little fan noise, use the money to buy a 290 and pocket the difference.
OP said: "Assuming I could get either at the same price, both reference design, which would you choose and why?"
No need to steer the conversation toward anti-fanboy anger We're just talkin' 'bout GPU stuff
I believe I gave him sound advice. If you can buy 2 cards at the same price, buy the one that's worth more, sell it and then use the money to buy the cheaper one.
lets say both can be bought for $400
buy the 780, I believe selling it for $450 shouldn't be too hard (its listed as $500 with no discounts)
then use that money to buy the 290
so in the end, he bought the 290 for $350
I believe I gave him sound advice. If you can buy 2 cards at the same price, buy the one that's worth more, sell it and then use the money to buy the cheaper one.
lets say both can be bought for $400
buy the 780, I believe selling it for $450 shouldn't be too hard (its listed as $500 with no discounts)
then use that money to buy the 290
so in the end, he bought the 290 for $350
I believe I gave him sound advice. If you can buy 2 cards at the same price, buy the one that's worth more, sell it and then use the money to buy the cheaper one.
lets say both can be bought for $400
buy the 780, I believe selling it for $450 shouldn't be too hard (its listed as $500 with no discounts)
then use that money to buy the 290
so in the end, he bought the 290 for $350
I had a rough time selling my ACX 780's for $425, so this may not work well. I would just go straight for the 290 unless you're a quiet/cool freak (like me haha)
I said with all things equal because I'm able to get a used 780 for the exact same price as a new 290, and no one is selling their 290s. 780 market is pretty bad atm. There's really no flipping to be had on 780s.
why are some acting like the 290 is the better card? the 780 and 290 are basically even out of the box and the 780 has way more overclocking headroom.
I edited that to say at 1080. at higher resolutions, the 290 pulls away slightly but again the much better overclocking ability of the 780 would wipe that out and then some.Yeah. And the OP noted he can get both at the same price. That makes the decision REALLY easy - the 780 wins by a mile in terms of overall quality.
why are some acting like the 290 is the better card? the 780 and 290 are basically even out of the box at 1080 and the 780 has way more overclocking headroom. if they were actually the same price then when in the heck would the hotter, louder, more power hungry 290 even be considered?
I ran my 780's at 1242 24/7 and the 290's are faster at 1075 which isn't even all they will do on the stock cooler. Just sayin. The mountain of problems I have had with the 290's are not worth the little extra performance, but I'm stuck with them now.
What's going on with them? Out of curiosity
Black screen crashes, white frames (imagine playing a game and suddenly a full white frame is inserted, very jarring), poor crossfire performance usually to include negative scaling in almost every game that I have. Very picky drivers that will suddenly give you a black desktop with nothing but a mouse cursor, etc. 780's were plug and play.
I hate to call BS, but negative scaling in almost every game you have?!? Unless you are cherry picking the few games where crossfire has an issue, I sense significant exaggeration here.
I have 2 290's in Crossfire and not a single issue... Contact the manufacturer instead of guessing.Black screen crashes, white frames (imagine playing a game and suddenly a full white frame is inserted, very jarring), poor crossfire performance usually to include negative scaling in almost every game that I have. Very picky drivers that will suddenly give you a black desktop with nothing but a mouse cursor, etc. 780's were plug and play.
At same price, I would get 780 hands down. I could care less if an OC-ed 290 beats out an OC-ed 780 considering the noise and heat by 3-5 frames.
Also I don't want to play the blackscreen lottery that is still going on.
You compare $500 to $400. If $100 is not an issue to you then by all means. For the price and performance, the 290 is the better choice.At same price, I would get 780 hands down. I could care less if an OC-ed 290 beats out an OC-ed 780 considering the noise and heat by 3-5 frames.
Also I don't want to play the blackscreen lottery that is still going on.
You compare $500 to $400. If $100 is not an issue to you then by all means. For the price and performance, the 290 is the better choice.
At same price, I would get 780 hands down. I could care less if an OC-ed 290 beats out an OC-ed 780 considering the noise and heat by 3-5 frames.
Also I don't want to play the blackscreen lottery that is still going on.
My God. Read the OP.You compare $500 to $400. If $100 is not an issue to you then by all means. For the price and performance, the 290 is the better choice.
Assuming I could get either at the same price, both reference design, which would you choose and why?
I could. Easily. GTX 780 GHz Edition is really, really close to 780 Ti but has better cooling and costs way less. At least where I live.Get the 290 and flash it to a 290X.
The 780 is old news. If you're going Nvidia, it's 780Ti or bust. Anyone buying the 780 right now are people that can sleep at night knowing they bought a 780ti with 25% of its cores disabled.