760 vs 770

Honestly it depends on what you're planning to play and at what settings. GTX 770 is a bit of a rehashed GTX 680, GTX 760 performs along the lines of a GTX 670. I personally would go for the 770 for that extra power.

You could also pick up a R9 290 which outperforms both cards and along the lines of a GTX 780 on ebay for ~$300.
 
1920x1200 res 27" monitor

Just got watchdogs, wanting to play at higher settings. Playing on going sli int the future.

Kinda leery of the used R9 290. They have been beat up mining.
 
To play watchdogs (due to current optimization) you're going to need at least a GTX 770 to play on decent settings @ 1920x1200 so the GTX 760 may be out of the question for you depending on what Ubisoft/Nvidia are going to do with optimization.
 
A 770 for $400, is a terrible deal. I've seen 780's go for around that rate. This card is a better option at 400.
 
290/290x are designed to handle 95c temperatures for 3 years + based on AMD design, and I can say 100% full honesty I have had way more buddies (and users of other forums I have noticed) have their Geforce cards up and "die" over the last decade then anyone that I know have their radeons up and die (unless they were of course shoddy fans and such to being with) So pick one cause you prefer the brand is one thing or better driver support overall, but don't discount the other as they have extremely good cards at a good price if you take it in comparison.

GTX760 is essentially ~80% of what a 670 (few places said ~110% averaged) is in many cases (reference clocked) Anyways, a 660Ti (760) are more then comfortable playing 1080p resolutions, certainly more so in the 760s case, but if you want to crank the settings up, and with at least more future performance, get a 770 and end up with 680+ performance. a 7970GHe(or 280x) for slightly less wattage and a bit more averaged performance.
 
The 290 is a great deal at $350ish, it's obsoleting anything from the 770 and upwards including AMD's own 280x lol.
BUT considering Nvidia optimizations are spreading through the industry like a plague, the 770 will probably match or beat the 290 in any games that matter.
 
rokar said:
1920x1200 res 27" monitor

Just got watchdogs, wanting to play at higher settings. Playing on going sli int the future.

Kinda leery of the used R9 290. They have been beat up mining.
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That's a tough decision for just Watch Dogs. It's the only game that actually makes those previous 600/700 Series cards with 4GB RAM useful. People are questioning the developers because for using the most RAM of any game out there, the textures/graphics look like shit to be honest.

To top it off I don't think those cards are going to be able to drive future games requiring that much RAM with those parts. They were kind of just an easy way for video card manufacturers to pimp out a product and make an extra $50-100.

The 760 is closer to a 660 Ti than a 670. It was a disappointment then and is a disappointment now, but at least it's priced somewhat reasonable. The only card in the 700 Series that is worth the money through and through, is the 780 since the $499 price drop.

I'd probably go for the 770 since it has 4GB of RAM and is still priced at its original retail rate (prices have gone down since to allow this). If you plan to do mild overclocks then even more so. There really isn't a good solution as Nvidia is no longer playing the competitive game with their card lineups. Everything is basically moving upwards by $100 from one line to the next.

I'd say it's time to start looking into AMD, but then you have the Watch Dog statement and that whole mess going on right now.
 
Thanks for all the help and info. I cannot thank y'all enough. Think I might just scounge up the extra 100$ and go with a 780.

Looking on Amazon I found this card. It's a Asus GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5, a used one is ~440$. Think I should gamble or just get a new one?
 
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rokar said:
Thanks for all the help and info. I cannot thank y'all enough. Think I might just scounge up the extra 100$ and go with a 780.

Looking on Amazon I found this card. It's a Asus GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5, a used one is ~440$. Think I should gamble or just get a new one?
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Since it's amazon, I would gamble. If it doesn't work, they always accept it back. Amazon has amazing customer support.

Though if you want to avoid any potential problems, buying it new is the way to go for the most part.
 
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The PNY 770 4gb for $359 on newegg which is not too bad. 3gb is already sketchy in Wolfenstein and Watch Dogs for 1920x1200.

Has no one asked what the rest of the specs of the pc are? That matters too of course.
 
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i5 2500K
Z68X-UD3H-B3
16gig ddr3 1600 (i think)
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You better oc that cpu a bit as Watch Dogs really needs more than 4 threads to keep framerate up in all parts of the game. I would just get that 770 4gb for $359 and you will be fine for the most part. Just dont count on staying above 60 fps in Watch Dogs with a 2500k plus the game has some issues right now for many people.
 
I vote for the GTX770 w/ 4 GB's of vram. Plus, you get some nice physX effects in some games. I played Borderlands 2 both with an AMD card (6970) and an Nvidia gtx770. I am not sure how those two cards compare, but the extra phys-x effects made gameplay that much more fun.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
The 290 is a great deal at $350ish, it's obsoleting anything from the 770 and upwards including AMD's own 280x lol.
BUT considering Nvidia optimizations are spreading through the industry like a plague, the 770 will probably match or beat the 290 in any games that matter.
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You should work for Nvidia PR. Gameworks and so forth are hardly optimizations, they are the beginning of screwing over dev and user alike (seeing as devs have to submit for certain changes to be made and if it benefits anyone but Nvidia directly it will not happen) don't have a powerful enough card to use higher setting or a newer generation model, well that sux cause to use x setting you need y card wait for it mark my words. Nvidia the way we screw everyone when we get paid (tm)

In all seriousness though now, 770/280x for 1080-1200p single or multi with definitely reduced settings, 780/290 for 1200-higher single or multi.
 
When did 760 cards become $300?! They used to sell for $200 occasionally on sale. Oh whoops, I see that's 4GB model now.
 
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cause Nvidia are greedy, and do whatever they can to make sure only they win, what more do you need :O
 
Guys, I love AMD as much as the next guy, but people are blowing this gameworks thing WAY out of proportion. Gameworks is no worse than AMD' G-E platform (eyfinity, MLAA, that sort of thing) and [H] proved beyond a doubt that Watch Dogs is not at all hampered by an AMD card, even though it's a GW title.
 
You do realize ANY performance improvement that is done in a game works title is more or less done by AMD directly with no official support in any form, not by the devs and sure as hell not by Nvidia. It is not blown out of proportion, this game in particular is not all the issue at hand is, its the overall concept, team red does not go out of their way to make team green performance poor with specific features (tressFX is the only one I am aware of, and even then its not a game breaking feature, where everything say like PhysX can screw over everything if made to work improperly unless a green card is in use or the user does crazy work arounds)

They do and have forcefully hamper via team greens "support" time and time again, optimize for others hardware through your code of course not, but do everything possible to hamper performance just cause folks decide to use something else is just sad. I don't blame devs for getting green support (they have $ to throw around cause so many support their ways of doing things) these modern games are uber $ to make happen, and if you can have direct hardware dev support (including hardware to make it on) of course you will.

Fact is, previous to 14.6 drives performed quite crap apparently on Watch dogs among other games(or at least not performing close to their actual spec) its great AMD has some very solid coders for game support, many of the games they do driver optimizations for are by and large Nvidia/Intel biased even though the average user does not see this, and without this support (which in many cases is extremely tough to give/get) Radeon and AMD cpu performance would be even more dismal.

Be bloody nice when they make things less vendor agnostic and just use the capabilities of the hardware being used so it can benefit everyone equally, more powerful hardware, better performance, crap hardware crap performance it shouldn`t be relying on slights of coding to give magical gains and shoddy losses just cause you don't use 1 or the other.
 
Hey guys, sorry if this is off topic but I need some help. Long story short, I won the Taco Bell
Gamestop $500 GC sweepstakes back in November 2013 and now planning to buy one of these card(they have the GPUs on their website currently). So on to my question, is my PSU sufficient enough to run either the 760 or 770?

My PSU RS-650-ACAA-A1
 
Kazuma101 said:
Hey guys, sorry if this is off topic but I need some help. Long story short, I won the Taco Bell
Gamestop $500 GC sweepstakes back in November 2013 and now planning to buy one of these card(they have the GPUs on their website currently). So on to my question, is my PSU sufficient enough to run either the 760 or 770?

My PSU RS-650-ACAA-A1
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In general you always need to list ALL your specs but it would be practically impossible for that psu to not be enough in any normal pc.
 
Wow, didn't expect a quick reply, thank you. current pc specs

Q6600 @3.0
GA-EP45-UD3R
4gb dd2 800
2x WD 1tb HDD

planning to save up and upgrade the rest later.
 
misterbobby said:
In general you always need to list ALL your specs but it would be practically impossible for that psu to not be enough in any normal pc.
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Uh, that won't be powering any R9 anytime soon, so no, you're statement isn't quite right its also not leaving much for a 770.
Kazuma101 said:
Wow, didn't expect a quick reply, thank you. current pc specs

Q6600 @3.0
GA-EP45-UD3R
4gb dd2 800
2x WD 1tb HDD

planning to save up and upgrade the rest later.
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You're going to be bottlenecking even at 3.6ghz on that CPU, and obviously you have other plans to upgrade which is good, however having said that if you're planning on upgrading down the road anyway, I wouldn't buy a 770 *Trash* or a 760, I would hold off personally and see if you could swing a 780.

Dig around this thread here about your CPU, and to put things into perspective, GTX670 = 760, 680 = 770, give or take minor bumps in performance with the "rebrand".

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1761984
 
Sodapopjones said:
Uh, that won't be powering any R9 anytime soon, so no, you're statement isn't quite right its also not leaving much for a 770.
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He was asking about a 760 or 770 and I was telling him that his psu could easily power either of those cards fine in a normal pc. By normal I meant a non heavily oced and or power hungry cpu and a couple of drives.
 
45amps on the 12v by spec. I know they can do these as I have the big brother to it, the 750 still happy chugging away 7 years or so now. And yes, it would also be able to power an R9 there is enough power available, really depends on what 12v rail is used to feed what though.

Bottlenecking is way blow out of proportion just the same as "you need pci-e x16 for all gpu or you lose so much performance" in many cases, it becomes a wives tail.
 
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